what does the unhcr say to that?st: the refugees are people fleeing for their lives and threats to their livelihood, their freedom. when we are talking about the refugee status determination process, it's an individualized process. we have to look at the individual circumstances and the experiences and the threats and the dangers that people are appearing, and that is what is really important. so it's not helpful to have a sweeping categorization. because it depends on the individual experience and the circumstances. so when we're looking at the global picture and receive refugees, they are people fleeing conflict, horrific human rights violations, persecution based on their orientation, or in other identity factors, could be race, religion or nationality , membership of a particular social group or political opinion. we have seen the stories and the experiences of people that have fled for their lives fleeing really horrific conflicts and human rights violations. the need is for a more compassionate and humane respo

so i was part of an i interagency mission with colleagues from the unhcr and other un agencies over theen damaged. having said that, the cities where we are seeing the displaced populations going to now are now actually living in cities more accessible. so our target now has to be two fold. it is to get help to the newly displaced people moving to these areas and to get, of course, the urgent relief that is going to be needed in derna and continue to do that. titer? continue to do that. very challenging _ continue to do that. very challenging task - continue to do that. very challenging task for i continue to do that. very challenging task for you | continue to do that. very i challenging task for you and the team, thank you very much for joining us and good luck. these are live pictures from derna. you can see as we see these pictures full frame bulldozer is trying to move some of the rubble, it does still look like a tsunami has been through there and people describing the scene on the ground as being apocalyptic. and when you look at that, you can absolutely see why. the search going

were 29 million considered to be refugees by the unhcr . but we refugees by the unhcr.t, the fundamental drivers of this epoch defining challenge are economics and demography . challenge are economics and demography. in january, the world economic forum said that migration will become one of the top five global risks in the next decade ahead of national resource crisis. geo economic confrontation and environmental disasters. it's a fallacy that as countries get richer, emigration from them declines . emigration from them declines. as the american economist michael clemens has found, emigration from a country tends to rise until it reaches a level of income of about $10,000 per person before declining world bank data show that more than 3 billion people live in countries where the average income is below this threshold. the potential for migration to increase yet further is truly colossal . while the raw numbers colossal. while the raw numbers show how demand for migration , show how demand for migration, an legal or otherwise, is likely to surge in the coming years , so

agencies that are out there doing incredible work, whether it is unhcr, unicef, migration and down the list, they are doing things to help people in distress, whether they are not doing it, we would have to do it on our own or no one would do it and then you would have a world in greater hurt. of course the u.n. needs a lots of work. as my boss like to say, don't compare me to the almooghty, compare me to the alternative. >> general mark milley, who i spent some time with recently, was talking about ukraine, the battle space of ukraine as the fulcrum of the world in terms of democracy. the whole story is there. if russia wins and gets its way through force, that means that aauthoritarians would truly -- and my question is do you believe all of our eggs are in that basket as well? >> let me say two things. first, one thing about mark. it has been an incredible privilege to serve alongside him. he is an extraordinary american. an extraordinary leader and an amazing patriot and i have not only learned a tremendous amount from him but just enjoyed immensely being in the situation room with

the unhcr's head of protection said the situation in derna is "horrific".water. families have lost a very big number of their loved ones. many are still missing. some have been split and others displaced. the search and rescue teams continue to try to save lives, but the situation is far from being stable at the moment. earlier i spoke to claudia gazzini, senior analyst for libya at the international crisis group about what she's seen in derna. the city of derna is a devastated city. i know it well because i was there to months ago and it was lively, shops, but the derna i saw on thursday is just an empty area of murdered, sand, concrete buildings piling up, area of mud, sand, concrete buildings piling up, buildings which have been flattened. it is a vast area, several square kilometres. the immensity can't be described. amid all this rubble and debris, there are rescue workers of at least six countries. i think the number has gone up. a lot of libyan rescue workers still digging in a very simple way in the houses. if there is a family, somebody alive and k

the unhcr instead called for "stronger and more consistent application". you're live with bbc news.8,000 people fleeing the disputed enclave of nagorno—karabakh. it follows a military operation last week by the azerbaijanis, to retake the region, after months of tension. internationally, nagorno—kara bakh is recognized as part of azerbaijan, but for decades ethnic armenians have controlled large parts of the territory. since the ceasefire, there has been a mass exodus of residents of nagorno—karabakh toward the border with armenia. armenia's prime minister has warned that ethnic cleansing is already under way in the region. bbc correspondent sarah rainsford has more from the border town of goris. the slow roll out of their homeland. this is a journey no—one squeezed into these vehicles ever imagined they would make. ethnic armenians fleeing nagorno—karabakh on whatever transport they could find. it's a week since azerbaijan seized back the enclave. it did promise to protect the armenian majority there, but no—one we found dared believe that. instead, they flooded here, to armenia. w

so i was part of an interagency mission with colleagues from the unhcr and other un agencies over the infrastructure has been damaged, the bridge infrastructure across derna has been damaged. having said that, the cities where we are seeing the displaced populations going to now are now actually living in cities more accessible. so our target now has to be two fold. it is to get help to the newly displaced people moving to these areas and to get, of course, the urgent relief that is going to be needed in derna and continue to do that. lets update you on the prisoner swap. five prisoners are on their way home. this is part of a complex deal that has been done, but they have left the airport and on their way to doha. we can bring you live pictures from iranians state television we are getting in, because we are keeping a close eye on what is happening the other way. tv there says two other five iranians will be release by the us and they have landed in doha. a qatari plane carrying the prisoners has taken off and will land in doha before flying to the us. press tv say two have been rele

earlier, we heard from mohamed dayri, former libya foreign minister & former unhcr 0fficial.town in eastern libya. town in eastern libya. my wife's family has suffered a great deal. we have lost a number of people — more than ten people have died yesterday. but others have been decimated by these fresh floods that have swept across derna and sent people into the sea, as you mentioned earlier. i know derna, but i also know the people who have prevailed so far in derna itself. while i agree with the national federation of the red cross representative consideration that indeed there has been a great deal of solidarity inside libya, but there has also been some anger and some desperate people, because of the lack of preparedness before the start of the emergency and the start of the daniel hurricane. and the slowness of the response so far. unfortunately, the local, the national and the international assistance has been slow. and we are witnessing a new wave of assistance that is coming through from europe, from arab countries. you reference there the fact that we have split auth

talked about this political crisis in libya with mohamed day—ri, former libya foreign minister & former unhcred it as the land people describe the situation described it as the [and shifted in so many people were just swept away and we been the ring for the graphic accounts of people being found on bmp accounts of people being found on lamp posts, trees, we were fine details of the aftermath and you heard from the doctor that what was needed at this stage two days on, a rescue team and christ still being heard under a lot of the wreckage and a reference some of the politics and a reference some of the politics and some of the divisions in libya thatis and some of the divisions in libya that is making the rescue efforts more difficult and early in the programme, i spoke to a former professional and he urged the two governments, the one in the capital and the one in the east to work together. yesterday, i called forjoint emergency between the two governments. it is time that we put aside the political divide and we tackled the great deals of this catastrophe that is at hand. for the time being,

the unhcr's head of protection said the situation in derna is "horrific". of their loved ones. many are still missing. some have been split and others have been displaced. the search and rescue teams continue to try to save lives, but the situation is far from being stable at the moment. live now to claudia gazzini, senior analyst for libya lets ta ke lets take you live to derna. better still in operation to find bodies, there are thousands of missing and lots of doctors, medical workers struggling now to try and determine who the missing are and who the bodies belong to as well. we have also heard stories of people who have nowhere to sleep, no food and little access to basic amenities. the situation is absolutely catastrophic. live now to claudia gazzini, senior analyst for libya at the international crisis group. you were in derna. what did you see? the city of derna is a devastated city. i know it well because i was there to months ago and it was lively, shops, but the derna i saw on thursday is just an empty area of murdered, sand, concrete buildings p

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with 29 million considered to be refugees by the unhcr.ut we must be honest — the fundamental drivers of this epoch defining challenge our economics and demography. injanuary, the world economic forum set that made igration will become one of the top five global risks in the next decade ahead of national resource crisis, geo—economic confrontation and environmental disasters. before we get thoughts on this, let's quickly return to what the original convention says. it was draughted post war, in 1951, when millions of people in europe had been forcibly displaced. it defined refugee status, as... it created in international law, a minimum standard for the treatment of refugees and it stipulate refugees cannot be penalised for breaching immigration rules while fleeing. almost 150 countries have signed up to the convention. it is still considered the cornerstone of the international asylum system. joining me now is dr s chelvan, an immigration barrister and adjunct professor at southampton law school. do you accept the home secretaries broad p

unhcr emergency refugee coordinator in somalia. humanitarian emergency relief officer in northern kenya and somalia. and as a fulbright scholar in jordan. he holds a phd in government from george county university, a ba in nda from the university of colorado, where he lettered in football and was inducted into their hall of four testing was alumni. dr. rutherford has also served on the board of trustees with the shenandoah valley battlefield foundation, which preserves and interprets the region's significant civil war battlefields and related historic sites. so as a quick note, we will have a question-and-answer period after dr. rutherford's speech. if you'd like to ask ken a question, just please form a line behind the mic to the left. okay. and ken? the floor is yours. thank you. >> thank you very much. thank you, bob, and think about for being here on a saturday. nice weather here in beautiful appomattox. it's an honor and a privilege for me to present this topic to you. you'll soon find out that it's been a labor of love. regar

i walked with unhcr employees and other u.n.employees who are devoting all of their efforts and their time to saving the lives of the people in sudan. so i will commend that effort here in chad. and i know that efforts are being made elsewhere to support the sudanese who are the victims of this brutal war. nick: and finally, let's talk about the regional actors. the united arab emirates in particular has been a supporter of general hemmati and the rapid support forces. has the u.s. confirmed that the uae has sent weapons to the rcf in the last few months? >> we have called for all countries who might be engaged in this war to cease those efforts. we need to call for peace. we need to encourage these the warring parties to put down their weapons. we're supporting efforts to find a peaceful solution, to negotiate a peaceful settlement to this war, because until this war in, people in sudan will continue to suffer. and we've made very, very clear any countries that might be engaged in supporting the efforts of the warring parties s

. >> after suella spoke in dc , the >> after suella spoke in dc, the un's refugee agency, the unhcr, made an intervention defending the 1951 convention, saying it remains as relevant today as when it was adopted. i asked the home secretary about her concerns as these documents , concerns as these documents, these conventions, as you said, were born out of the world war two tragedy and global movements of people. >> but they were designed for a smaller number of people before the age of cheap travel, before the age of cheap travel, before the age of social media and before the age of the geo politics that we're seeing today, which are causing this mass movement of people to the western world largely. and so i think it's a reasonable question to ask are these documents and rules that we set in another world, in another era still fit for the 21st century and the challenges that we face today? i don't think they are not everybody coming to the uk on a boatis everybody coming to the uk on a boat is a refugee or is fleeing persecution. number one, they're coming from france . they're comin

do not come from the un, the unhcr, the eu, the ecj, the echr or any other bunch of acronyms unelectedntable and overreaching international body or treaty. our rights come from our history. interestingly even the authors of magna carta maintained it was a confirmation of rights rights, supposedly granted by edward the confessor . and that's why the home secretary is right to raise the prospect of withdrawing from the european convention of human rights as a means of reminding the court that it operates by consent, not divine right. very interestingly , the former interestingly, the former supreme court justice, jonathan sumption, has pointed out in his new support for leaving the convention open that many of the rights that it upholds existed in british law long before we signed the convention, he wrote in the spectator today, there is nothing in it. the echr that we cannot enact by ordinary domestic legislation. we can have whatever rights we want if there is a sufficient democratic mandate for them. the real purpose of the convention is to make us accept rights which we may not want.

. >> after suella spoke in dc , the >> after suella spoke in dc, the un's refugee agency, the unhcr, made an intervention defending the 1951 convention, saying it remains as relevant today as when it was adopted. i asked the home secretary about her concerns as these documents , concerns as these documents, these conventions, as you said, were born out of the world war two tragedy and global movements of people. >> but they were designed for a smaller number of people before the age of cheap travel, before the age of cheap travel, before the age of social media and before the age of the geo politics that we're seeing today, which are causing this mass movement of people to the western world largely. and so i think it's a reasonable question to ask are these documents and rules that we set in another world, in another era still fit for the 21st century and the challenges that we face today? i don't think they are not everybody coming to the uk on a boatis everybody coming to the uk on a boat is a refugee or is fleeing persecution. number one, they're coming from france . they're comin

certainly from the unhcr perspective, that regional cooperation, international cooperation, internationalt crises is very much in the developing world. it is not in europe, it is not in the americas, it is in the regions where these crises are happening. two thirds of forcibly displaced people stay within their own country, they do not even cross borders. those who do cross borders typically stay in countries neighbouring their own, about seven in ten stay there. and those who elect to move on words often do so because they are simply faced with impossible choices. we have heard today about what that looks like and what that feels. people have very difficult decisions to make and it is important to recognise that. we to make and it is important to recognise that.— to make and it is important to recognise that. we will talk more in a moment — recognise that. we will talk more in a moment we _ recognise that. we will talk more in a moment. we will _ recognise that. we will talk more in a moment. we will talk _ recognise that. we will talk more in a moment. we will talk to - recognise that.

this last year, is unhcr about this last year, is that it raises the bar for when it comes to how weis whole issue of illegal migration and small boats and all the rest of it by having third countries that we work with to resettle people all rather than fuelling this trade in illegal migration and people trafficking , moving from trafficking, moving away from home tax , you mentioned home affairs, tax, you mentioned tax there. >> time to start cutting >> is it time to start cutting taxes? show some idea of where taxation should go in the tory party. not be party. so you will not be surprised my own on surprised by my own views on this. surprised by my own views on thisthe burden is now at a 70 >> the tax burden is now at a 70 year high. that is unsustainable and the people that pay the taxes are hard pressed. brits around country . we as around the country. we as conservatives, we believe in lower taxes as conservatives, we believe being on the side of hard working households and families . as conservatives, we families. as conservatives, we believe in hope and aspiration . believe i

nafionsin remember going to the united nations in geneva , speaking to nations in geneva, speaking to unhcrthe bar when it comes to how we and the world can change this whole issue of illegal migration in and small boats and all the rest of it by having third countries that we work with to resettle people rather than fuelling this trade in illegal migration and people trafficking. >> chris hope, our political editor, speaking to priti patel. of course, ahead of that, tory party conference this weekend . party conference this weekend. now let's update you with that breaking news that we have on that m 53 school bus crash this morning. confirmation in the past few minutes that a 14 year old school girl and the school bus driver have been killed in that crash. our north—west of england, reporter sophie ripa was at that news conference at birkenhead town hall. awful circumstances, sophie, despite what were clearly huge efforts by the emergency services to save everybody , i absolutely save everybody, i absolutely horrendous here. >> mark, we heard in that press conference condole condolences of

remember going to the united nafionsin remember going to the united nations in geneva, speaking to unhcrt year, is that it raises the bar when it comes to how we and the world can change this whole issue of illegal migration in and small boats and all the rest of it by having third countries that we work with to resettle people rather than fuelling this trade in illegal migration and people trafficking . trafficking. >> well, with just two days until tory party conference starts, we'll have more from that exclusive interview with dame pretty later on throughout the day here on gb news. >> right now let's find out what the weather is going to do for us today. >> good morning. i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for news. fine office for gb news. a fine friday for the vast majority. brighton a bit breezy, sunny spells , a few showers here and spells, a few showers here and there, starting off with a little bit of rain across east anglia the south—east. quite anglia in the south—east. quite a last night wasn't it? but a wet last night wasn't it? but that