the fact is the fatigue we will see will be unheralded in the middle of the month. >> all these earlyromotions make people buy early but stealing from the sales later in december. >> the sales are being distributed across more store hours which costs far more money. the margins have gone into the holiday season in trouble because discounting has been at jong-un precedented level. >> you talk about this concept. very good friend. race to the bottom. that this has been an accelerating process where we are discounting more and more in a business that you compare to the airlines. >> the airlines got into several years of serial discounting to a point at which they were getting virtually nothing for the seat miles. they have these large expensive aircraft that have to be purchased and serviced and fuelled. yet they were killing each other to fill their planes up. they all went bankrupt. >> is that happening in your business? >> i certainly hope not. how do we fix this? how do we get back from where we are now to a more normalized -- >> i would have thought more retail ceos would take the p

prepared, in fact, they're doing a tremendous amount right now that i think is some to some extent unheralded. probably most people here at least are aware of the fact that community colleges provide in almost all cases some type of dual enrollment, which is an opportunity for high school students to acquire community college credits while they are in secondary school. they might be having the courses delivered to them at their high school. they might be going to community college to take the courses. but this concept of dual enrollment is relatively new, although it's very broad based at this point. and it was designed interestingly and importantly not for your classical advanced placement type student who is an honor student in high school, an a or b student, who students maybe on the margin of college participation. maybe they weren't sure they were going to go, they didn't know enough about it. the original animating idea behind this was to give the students who might not have attended exposure to college. so that's really being done on a very broad basis right now. so that does play a ro

prepared, in fact, they're doing a tremendous amount right now that i think is some to some extent unheralded. probably most people here at least are aware of the fact that community colleges provide in almost all cases some type of dual enrollment, which is an opportunity for high school students to acquire community college credits while they are in secondary school. they might be having the courses delivered to them at their high school. they might be going to community college to take the courses. but this concept of dual enrollment is relatively new, although it's very broad based at this point. and it was designed interestingly and importantly not for your classical advanced placement type student who is an honor student in high school, an a or b student, who students maybe on the margin of college participation. maybe they weren't sure they were going to go, they didn't know enough about it. the original animating idea behind this was to give the students who might not have attended exposure to college. so that's really being done on a very broad basis right now. so that does play a ro

. >> i would say the biggest unheralded winner was rob portman who did a lot of raising money for andthat surprised tonight. the biggest loser still has to be president obama. it was a repudiation of the president. >> the biggest winner is just quite simply the republican party. they're getting a second chance. and now we'll see if they'll take the opportunity that's been given to them. >> greg orman's loss is a lost opportunity for independents. we're 42% of this country and it would have been interesting to see if others would have stepped up. >> since we're out of time, i'm going to say the biggest loser is clay aiken. because why not? >> ten hours flew by. >> we're having a good time. >> i'm going to sit down. >> our coverage of election night in america continues right now. right now we're saying, john berman and christine roman, they're going to pick it up and have a good time. thanks very much for joining us. thanks very much for joining us. >> breaking news this morning. a tidal wave for republicans. the gop taking control of the u.s. senate, advancing their lead in house of r