titled veterans alley, and i've been working on that street with those that are both housed and unhoused for the last seven years. so i've seen the church and church members on an intimate level and how they operate in the community. when we first got there, we saw that there was, you know, a great division between the church and those that are housed and unhoused, as a matter of fact. and one thing that we attempted to do with the church was to actually rehab them because no one trusts them, no one likes them in that community there, and we've proposed several times to do community based art projects, and we proposed twice to them. the first time we did a proposal for an abandoned building that's on o'farrell street, we said we would do it free. they took the proposal, and they promptly went out and paid thousands of dollars for another group to come in and do those murals. those murals don't look like anybody in that community that live there today. the second one, the recent proposal, we offered to do poetry on the sides of their buildings so they could get to know people in the commu