unibail, and-- of unibail does not have any major shareholders. how will you get this leverage?our , that refocusong instead of reset is so compelling that we should be all the majorce investors in that company to be with us. clearly we will create value while the rights issue would be devastating. it would destroy massive value. what investors want is value creation. they won a new strategic plan. they want a new entrepreneurial spirit. that is a way to correct it, and i think that the markets will react very positively to the approach. francine: would you be willing to take a bigger share of this company? leon: very much so. we are ready, that we don't intend to take control of the company. francine: you are ready, up to how much? no target there. what is key is to make sure that we work as a team with all of the leading investors. what is key, that the board supports a new strategy, which is very compelling, a very compelling story, and that we relaunch the company. it is very bizarre that such a leading company loses up to 85% soits value over 2, 3 years, it was a major stra

unibail, if we see more restrictions, this is where people will not be going. down by 4.5%. look at european markets. david: we are mildly off on equities as well, with the exception of the nasdaq. let's turn back to the election. the two candidates for president this year have laid out different vision for the economy. for a perspective on what the nation's ceos are thinking, we welcome someone who deals with them every day. rich lesser, ceo of the boston consulting group. give us a sense of what ceos are looking at, what do they hope, what do they fear? rich: first, a pleasure to be with you today. i think the first fear right now is the coming weeks. unlike any other election cycle i can remember, the risk of a contested election, where many, many americans questioned the legitimacy of an outcome were really thrown into disarray in the weeks following the election , is a risk. if your ceo is looking at that environment, what that will mean for everything on how we control the pandemic to how we roll out vaccines to how we get a stimulus bill passed, two questions about th