julia: i've never heard of a unicorn frappuccino. carol: that's what they came up with?conomists? >> i came up with the unicorn frappuccino. julia: it's interesting. i had to look it up. it's a lot of pink and purple and blue. people bought it at five dollars or something? >> it's five dollars a pop, really expensive drink and people were buying them like crazy. it was a treat yourself phenomenon. him and it was the strong extravagances -- small extravagances we've seen among young consumers, whether avocado toast or unicorn frappuccinos or five dollar bottles of kombuchas. we have an able to see people splurge on these kind of luxuries. it could be worrying if people don't move on to bigger purchases. julia: do they end up spending more on bigger luxuries? >> exactly. are you spending consistently enough? and not saving up to buy that house. carol: the other story is vacation. julia: they are all splurging. >> absolutely. one thing i really like about travel spending is that it moves up recovery and falls when you hit a recession and sometimes it's even a leading indica