she's uninformed, inexperienced. she could do nothing for us. she is not a woman of substance about the issues. i agree with joy all the way. >> janice, what have you seen in these interviews where she's coming off as uninformed. she's not talking policy. she's just talking her own life. >> caller: i know. even when she has an opportunity to talk about policy, she doesn't do it. it's like general, it's not even specific. i'm sorry. she has nothing to contribute to us or the world. >> janet, not a fan there. let me throw out this point. i don't think it's the time for her to talk policy. when she's a candidate again or heading that way, then let's hear policy. at this point -- >> exactly. >> the goal is, just set the record straight. >> i think any politician would probably give their right arm to have the level of name recognition and the base of support that sarah palin has right now. so that's -- i think any liberal that underestimates her or misunderestimates her. i think she didn't necessarily change critical opinion in the oprah interview.

if you have referendum democracy, you have politically equal but uninformed masses. you have the kind in the building that is the recovery of, politically unwit -- unequal but more informed. to my surprise, i think there is an easy way out of the dilemma, but i do not want to offer it as a panacea and say it should be used for everything, but it is a remedy that can be used at strategic moments for specific purposes. i thought i thought of it, but in fact it goes back ancient athens, where the athenians would have deliberating my problems chosen by lot. and what is a lot but a random sample? you can see in the museum of the form that the remnants of this machine, something you'd find and a bingo game. there were other institutions in athens that made important decisions done that way. and the reason it was done that way, the deliberating microcosm can deliberate, but it is an empirical question. it represents political equality, because everyone has an equal chance to be part of it and have their views out equally. it is a way out of this dilemma of democracy without

the people who have commented and said that it did, you know, not only are they uninformed, they weren't ever close to the situation or the information. see, look at the qualifications of me when i came into the time -- "the times" and compare them to any other reporter that they hire around that age or any of my colleagues as interns, and mine were far above all of them. if you look at my fall, it has to do with my personal failings and nothing to do with my race. so to sort of advocate along the lines that you shouldn't equate me to black journalists is like buying into a false argument already, you know. it's just a silly argument that, to me, is not even worth engaging in. the type of people who are going to go and run with that, i'm not going to ever change their minds anyway. >> jayson, i had a question for you. i describe your transgressions, that this was sort of a gradual thing. how is it that you used the term "baby steps" to describe the decision you made to go to a coffee shop instead of getting on a plane and going to west virginia to interview the lynches? how is that a bab

the people who commented and said it did, not only are they uninformed, and they were not ever closeo the situation more information. compare it to any other reporter that they hired around that age or any of my colleagues and mine were far above all of them. if you look at my fall, it has to do my personal things and not my race. to advocate along the lines you should not equate race to black journalists is buying into a false argument. it is a silly argument that is not even worth in gauging and. the people that will run with that will not ever change their minds. >> i have a question for you. you use the term baby steps. how is it that you use the term baby steps to describe the decision you made to go to a coffee shop instead of getting on a plane and going to west virginia to interview the lynch's. how is that not nailing the gun? >> that was the running part. that was not the beginning. the baby steps started long before them. >> why did you recognize that? >> it is not that i did not recognize the. why did i not stop? i do not know. if i were to answer -- this get into the par

the people who commented and said it did, not only are they uninformed, and they were not ever closesituation more information. compare it to any other reporter that they hired around that age or any of my colleagues and mine were far above all of them. if you look at my fall, it has to do my personal things and not my race. to advocate along the lines you should not equate race to black journalists is buying into a false argument. it is a silly argument that is not even worth in gauging and. the people that will run with that will not ever change their minds. >> i have a question for you. you use the term baby steps. how is it that you use the term baby steps to describe the decision you made to go to a coffee shop instead of getting on a plane and going to west virginia to interview the lynch's. how is that not nailing the gun? >> that was the running part. that was not the beginning. the baby steps started long before them. >> why did you recognize that? >> it is not that i did not recognize the. why did i not stop? i do not know. if i were to answer -- this get into the part wher