uninhabited urbanization. that infringes on incredibly exciting territory., there are no people. -- forire environment is people, we make careful spaces. but now you can exploit and celebrate the essence of people. charlie: take a look. i'm going to see finally the clip that is from a documentary made by your son. it is called "rem," this is a documentary that will come out -- when will this be finished? rem: this year. the point of the film is not to look at me or talk about me. it is really to convey the experience of the buildings. charlie: roll tape. here is a portion of this. ♪ >> i felt it was really crucial, at least for me, to find a way to become an architect. ♪ we are always challenged by problems. but that is a very abstract term. i think it is much better to say that we are challenged by people's needs. that is the real incentive. ♪ charlie: react to what you just said. rem: to this? charlie: yeah. what do you hope we come away with this? this is just a slight sliver of it. we come away with a sense of a life in architecture. we come away with a

. >> exactly, an uninhabited urbanization, and that is incredibly exciting territory because you see it also the in e environment. for people we make space but you can exploit and even celebrate the absence of people. >> rose: i want to see a clip from a document rimade by your -- documentary made by your son tomas. when will this be finished? >> this year. i think the point of the film is not to talk about me. it's really to convey the experience of the buildings. >> rose: okay. all right, role tape. here's a portion of this. ♪ >> i felt it was really crucial at least for me to find another way of being an architect. we are always challenged by problems. i think it's much better to say we are challenged by people's needs. this is the ereworking center. >> rose: react to what you just said. >> to this? >> rose: yeah. you hope we come away from this. this is just simply a slight sliver of it. you hope we come away with a sense of a life in architecture, we come away with a sense of -- >> what i hope you come away with is a kind of sense of engagement, but not with power, necessarily,