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in returning to moscow but the soviet union would never be to see all of the. state committee for the state of emergency people all they knew they wanted to do was stop whatever was happening in its tracks but they didn't have an alternative vision they didn't have really anything else to propose in its place other than status quo ante let's go back to we had before nonstarter didn't go anywhere got no traction in society at all and the second thing was simple planning bad planning ironically instead of curbing or of a child's performance project and reinvigorating the power of the communist party the coup plotters he sent their own political demise real political power shifted to yeltsin who quickly moved to ban the party and a few months later the soviet union ceased to exist. for cross-tab are to. go to you first. go international later twenty years ago there was this coup what does it mean now twenty years after the fact which is a brand new russia recognizable from what happened twenty years ago when you teach your students when you talk to people about it
in returning to moscow but the soviet union would never be to see all of the. state committee for the state of emergency people all they knew they wanted to do was stop whatever was happening in its tracks but they didn't have an alternative vision they didn't have really anything else to propose in its place other than status quo ante let's go back to we had before nonstarter didn't go anywhere got no traction in society at all and the second thing was simple planning bad planning ironically...
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of promoting the financial interests even when a union leaders union can only exist when a majority of its members vote for something unions or are democratic institutions work places corporations or kingdoms how could you call it a union how could you say a union is working for a privileged few when you when a union can only exist to fifty one percent of its members say they want it. well you just you just played a clip about card check which was to take away the secret ballot because unions are in rapid decline i would not say where there's nobody setting knob numbers from the height of unionism in the one nine hundred fifty s. to work nearly sixty percent of the private workforce was unionized today it's less than eight percent so then tom why are the unions in such rapid decline if they're doing the good work of those that they're unionized and one hundred sixty the largest lawyer in the days of able laws today that is doing the things that the unions were doing back in the fifty's right now the unions are wrong let me know let me answer your question there's a very simple reaso
of promoting the financial interests even when a union leaders union can only exist when a majority of its members vote for something unions or are democratic institutions work places corporations or kingdoms how could you call it a union how could you say a union is working for a privileged few when you when a union can only exist to fifty one percent of its members say they want it. well you just you just played a clip about card check which was to take away the secret ballot because unions...
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a common space analogous to the european union and now his new idea for you are always in the union itself part of this is political but i think the economic logic behind reintegrate integration is an excuse in this capable particularly of globalization actually means anything right maybe i would do you think about that because one of the one of the criticisms of the c.i.s. is that it tries to be too many things at one time it focuses on trade economic security there's some elements of the military but obviously in a sense of self defense nothing like nato whatsoever and really they and they can in the criticism is that it wants to be a european union want to be but probably the current commonwealth of nations you know would look again at the u.k. experience is probably more to the mark but still the criticism is that it wants to be all things to all people all the time and that makes it very muddled. no doubt but that is the nature of these sorts of transnational integrative processes. if you look and put in address this in his remarks after his. article he pointed out that this is a mult
a common space analogous to the european union and now his new idea for you are always in the union itself part of this is political but i think the economic logic behind reintegrate integration is an excuse in this capable particularly of globalization actually means anything right maybe i would do you think about that because one of the one of the criticisms of the c.i.s. is that it tries to be too many things at one time it focuses on trade economic security there's some elements of the...
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in mind in the eurasian union whether he met in the in the political union there may be for a little bit of time john will see what that'll happen in ten years from many thanks my guest today and province in here in the studio and thanks to our viewers for watching us here to see you next time around the rostock. ok after the arab league has called on all sides of the conflict in syria to cease fire and implement a peace plan still rages on. new year new worries for europe as the leaders of france and germany meet to discuss the euro rescue plan it's all a bit concerned but now wants a bigger return on its investments. as football fans all around the world count down the days until the euro two thousand and twelve championships kick off in ukraine and poland many skeptics question whether the costs of the tournament are justified.
in mind in the eurasian union whether he met in the in the political union there may be for a little bit of time john will see what that'll happen in ten years from many thanks my guest today and province in here in the studio and thanks to our viewers for watching us here to see you next time around the rostock. ok after the arab league has called on all sides of the conflict in syria to cease fire and implement a peace plan still rages on. new year new worries for europe as the leaders of...
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we'll make you give that information to the union so the union can organize you. sweat shops disappeared in the 18th century. this is just a grab for power. it is a way for the president to get votes because he's, you know, he's got the union therefore that's what he is doing. it doesn't create jobs. it drives them overseas. >> i see your point about the president. but the head of the nrb said the agency will run better and communicate with those who they are overseeing which is union members and taking care of them. what do you say? >> brainwashing them. listen to what you said. that is crazy talk. what is interesting though all of this and the fact that we are talking about it gives the unions a bigger voice than they have. membership is shrinking by the second but doing crazy stuff like wayne said harkens us back to the sweat shop gives the unions a voice and a positn out there. they are the largest campaign contributor to the president's reelection and probably will be again. unfortunately. they are going to stick their faces where they don't belong. >> susan,
we'll make you give that information to the union so the union can organize you. sweat shops disappeared in the 18th century. this is just a grab for power. it is a way for the president to get votes because he's, you know, he's got the union therefore that's what he is doing. it doesn't create jobs. it drives them overseas. >> i see your point about the president. but the head of the nrb said the agency will run better and communicate with those who they are overseeing which is union...
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liners attempted to derail me helped out of a child's efforts to reform the soviet union in the coos aftermath the communist party was banned to be followed by the end of the u.s.s.r. could history have played out differently. if you. started. to cross talk the events of august one thousand nine hundred one i'm joined by geoffrey hosking in london he is america's professor of russian history at the university college london in oxford we have archie brown he's america's professor of politics at the university of oxford and indeed we know the god we go to make like petro he is professor of politics at the university of rhode island all right gentlemen this is cross talk that means you can jump in anytime you want but first let's have a look at the failed coup of one thousand nine hundred one. on august nineteenth one thousand nine hundred one instead of tuning into the soviet national anthem citizens across the u.s.s.r. woke up to a radio announcement that would start a sequence of events leading to the eventual collapse of the soviet union issued by the self-proclaimed hard line state
liners attempted to derail me helped out of a child's efforts to reform the soviet union in the coos aftermath the communist party was banned to be followed by the end of the u.s.s.r. could history have played out differently. if you. started. to cross talk the events of august one thousand nine hundred one i'm joined by geoffrey hosking in london he is america's professor of russian history at the university college london in oxford we have archie brown he's america's professor of politics at...
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firms is zero, the unionization leads to higher unemployment, unionization is the basically like a 30 percentage point tax increase on companies that have them. so, we know that unionization is not good for the economy. we also know on the flip side, the nlrb is pro union and they're an apartment accountable agency to all-- to no one. so, right there. you put it altogether and say, does this look good for the economy or bad for the economy? you have to conclude, bad for the economy. >> all right. steve, you answer that. >> well, that's completely false, about the nlrb. and they are not able to-- >> and where are the-- >> they're not able to false management and labor and not able to bring in binding arbitration as the employee free choice act called for. there's zero correlation between strong economy, weak labor. when our economy was the biggest part of the world's economy in the 1950's was when we were at the peak of our unionization. >> 1950. today in germany, which is doing quite well economic dri, there's been workers have 50% of the representation on the board of directors. they
firms is zero, the unionization leads to higher unemployment, unionization is the basically like a 30 percentage point tax increase on companies that have them. so, we know that unionization is not good for the economy. we also know on the flip side, the nlrb is pro union and they're an apartment accountable agency to all-- to no one. so, right there. you put it altogether and say, does this look good for the economy or bad for the economy? you have to conclude, bad for the economy. >>...
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doing the things that the unions were doing back in the fifty's right now the unions are wrong let me let me answer your question there's a very simple reason in one nine hundred sixty the largest employer in the united states was general motors and it was unionized today the largest employer in the united states is wal-mart and not only are they not unionized but they spend millions of dollars fighting unionization it's very simple and we changed our trade policy in the united states ronald reagan and bill clinton changed our trade policy so that we no longer have tariffs we no longer have any got protection for workers in the united states we give tax breaks for companies to move their unions offshore as a consequence the union positions have been busted and union busting is a two billion dollar a year industry no the united states in the meantime the guys who are the c.e.o.'s are making a fortune on the average worker is getting screwed people used to started at g.m. at forty fifty dollars an hour right now in germany the average auto workers union is wages sixty seven dollars an h
doing the things that the unions were doing back in the fifty's right now the unions are wrong let me let me answer your question there's a very simple reason in one nine hundred sixty the largest employer in the united states was general motors and it was unionized today the largest employer in the united states is wal-mart and not only are they not unionized but they spend millions of dollars fighting unionization it's very simple and we changed our trade policy in the united states ronald...
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they weakened unions. so we know that they'd weakened unions. unions organize workers to get involved in politics. they tend to vote more for democrats. so republicans oppose them. guest: your assertion about the statistics is false. for every site you show they make a difference, i can show the other. the wages are higher in the non right to work states. there's plenty of evidence that right to work states do bring jobs. the right to work states are weather in the storm in much better shape. host: south carolina is it right to work state. help us understand the correlation. guest: i would suggest there is not a correlation. it brought bowling into that state -- boeing. overall, how many jobs has a it brought? south carolina has been right to work for decades. perhaps it was from loaded and there may be other factors in south carolina. guest: can i respond? right to work has no affect. that is by her from his answer -- that is what i heard from his answer. i'm sorry that we have to get into this academic debate. those studies to not control any
they weakened unions. so we know that they'd weakened unions. unions organize workers to get involved in politics. they tend to vote more for democrats. so republicans oppose them. guest: your assertion about the statistics is false. for every site you show they make a difference, i can show the other. the wages are higher in the non right to work states. there's plenty of evidence that right to work states do bring jobs. the right to work states are weather in the storm in much better shape....
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and the shops gets he gets unionized those who don't want to pay union dues don't have to even though they get the benefits of all the bargaining and all the other work that the union does for them so those four employees of tom's tractor company who don't want to pay for the union will still get the better pay and wages but they don't have to contribute a dime to it what happens when that happens while the union loses it loses money it loses people the workers turn on each other until eventually the union collapses and then of course wages go down benefits are watched and working conditions think again this is exactly what's played out in states that have so-called right to work laws or as they should be called right to work for less laws right now there are twenty two states that have right to work for less laws indiana would become the twenty third state. and here are the facts about these states these right to work for less states on average workers in the right to work for less states make five point five thousand three hundred thirty three dollars a year less than their counterp
and the shops gets he gets unionized those who don't want to pay union dues don't have to even though they get the benefits of all the bargaining and all the other work that the union does for them so those four employees of tom's tractor company who don't want to pay for the union will still get the better pay and wages but they don't have to contribute a dime to it what happens when that happens while the union loses it loses money it loses people the workers turn on each other until...
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only ten percent of people in unions ever voted for the union they are paying dues to.u have 90 percent of people and in a lot of places and unions 100 percent of the people are working under a union organization and they never voted for that and they cannot get rid of it. but you can organize a queue -- a coup at kremlin easier. >>neil: it is the same with a nonunion shop trying to get a union ad, try all you want, but it is the same deal. very tough. >>guest: well, not true, unions win over 50 percent of the elections they have. so, if you ask about whether or not anyone gets unionized, the answer is, absolutely, question, and there are lots of situations where it is justified. but you still can't get rid of the union when they are in in. >>neil: what kind of response do you have? >>guest: great response. and the funny thing is if you go to the website. >>neil: if any north cent businessmen get back to you? >>guest: have not heard from anyone in north or south korea. >>neil: who have you heard from? not names but groups or business types. >>guest: well, first of all,
only ten percent of people in unions ever voted for the union they are paying dues to.u have 90 percent of people and in a lot of places and unions 100 percent of the people are working under a union organization and they never voted for that and they cannot get rid of it. but you can organize a queue -- a coup at kremlin easier. >>neil: it is the same with a nonunion shop trying to get a union ad, try all you want, but it is the same deal. very tough. >>guest: well, not true,...
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are faced with the unions, and the union members coming to you, they feel pushed against a wall, so when you are getting a private phone number, a private mail, it starts to become intrusive, is there will be constitutional questions. >> i don't want my phone number published anywhere. and now a young guy the get my phone number? >>guest: from your employer, so fox will have to give your private phone number to a union representative. it is not appropriate or proper. what will happen we will have major constitutional challenges to the appointment of the chairman. >> this is why the recess appointments matter. you have to be careful on who the current administration is appointing when congress and the senate is in recession. if ron paul drops out, will his fans still help the g.o.p. get in the white house? a warning for any republic looking to write off ron paul straight from the wellches. [ male announcer ] the inspiring story of how a shippingiant can befriend a forest may seem lie the stuff of fairy tales. but if you take aw the faces on the trees... take away the pixie dust. take
are faced with the unions, and the union members coming to you, they feel pushed against a wall, so when you are getting a private phone number, a private mail, it starts to become intrusive, is there will be constitutional questions. >> i don't want my phone number published anywhere. and now a young guy the get my phone number? >>guest: from your employer, so fox will have to give your private phone number to a union representative. it is not appropriate or proper. what will...
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union is not good. >> that the state of our union is sound. >> the state of the union is strong. >>n has never been stronger. >> and the state of our union is strong. >> i want to take a look at the economics, the politics of tonight's speech. christine romans is going to examine the state of the economy. christine, we are now recovering from the great recession. where do we stand now in terms of jobs and investments? what's the state of the economy? >> the state of your economy is what's going to be so important to people as they head into the voting booths, and of course the president knows that more than anyone. things are recovering. that's a very good way to look at it. if you look at your investments, the stock market is near a six-month high here. right back up to where it was basically last april. and take a look at something like the jobs market, which is probably more important to most people than their investments. the job is the engine of your personal economy. you know, initial jobs claims just last week were the lowest in three years. we know 1.6 million jobs requester
union is not good. >> that the state of our union is sound. >> the state of the union is strong. >>n has never been stronger. >> and the state of our union is strong. >> i want to take a look at the economics, the politics of tonight's speech. christine romans is going to examine the state of the economy. christine, we are now recovering from the great recession. where do we stand now in terms of jobs and investments? what's the state of the economy? >> the...
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is going to speak about the state of the union.t a few things that would improve the state of the union. you always have to wonder when obama speaks which country he thinks he's talking about. >> newt gingrich throwing some red meat to the base there in sarasota, florida. >>> the oscar nominations are out. there's lots of buzz who made the list and who got snubbed as well. let's get the scoop from global entertainment editor. >> i like that, global. >> let's start with best picture. >> we have nine nominees. the "artist," "money ball," tree of life". >> is there a move that has an obvious advantage? >> definitely "the artist". this has taken things by storm. this is the one to look out for. >> that's the silent film. >> it's the little film that could. it's up against george clooney. it should be an interesting category. >> nine movies still seems like a lot for best picture. ? >> nine movie s a whole lot. it could have been up to ten. it's a lot people might tune in. >> best actor. >> we have george clooney, jean dujardin, gary ol
is going to speak about the state of the union.t a few things that would improve the state of the union. you always have to wonder when obama speaks which country he thinks he's talking about. >> newt gingrich throwing some red meat to the base there in sarasota, florida. >>> the oscar nominations are out. there's lots of buzz who made the list and who got snubbed as well. let's get the scoop from global entertainment editor. >> i like that, global. >> let's start...
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address in eight hundred eighty seven as obama mentioned in his state of the union address in twenty ten when he called out the supreme court for the citizens united case and sam alito said there and sat there and mouth not true when president obama predicted exactly what has happened over the last two years this explosion of corporate money and billionaire money coming into our political system and wreaking absolute avick this money power which has taken over congress we must take back and the only way we're going to take it back is through movement politics it's not going to happen through the political parties they're captive of all this money right now politicians democratic and republican a republican would love to not have to spend thirty to seventy percent of every one of their working days on the phone asking for money they'd love it but they are so captive of these of the of these organizations that they need us to create a nationwide movement that will push them to say money is property not speech corporations are corporations not people we need a national movement just jus
address in eight hundred eighty seven as obama mentioned in his state of the union address in twenty ten when he called out the supreme court for the citizens united case and sam alito said there and sat there and mouth not true when president obama predicted exactly what has happened over the last two years this explosion of corporate money and billionaire money coming into our political system and wreaking absolute avick this money power which has taken over congress we must take back and the...
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he also loves his home country, the former soviet union. >> i don't love my soviet union because it was great. it was a terrible dictatorship. but, it was my home. you don't want to spend your whole lifetime there anymore than you want to spend your whole life with her mother. they would say, that guy has some kind of problem. more and more people are having little problem leaving their homes in the former soviet republics. marina came to berlin from kazakhstan to study music. today, she runs a popular russian restaurant. she says there's more to berlin than just -- >> personally, i like the fact that berlin is a safe city. it is safe to walk the streets at night in berlin. there is no corruption on the scale you see in russia, and you get what you expect to get. >> russia is everywhere in berlin. one area was already known in the east german era. it's still has the original early 1960's styling. tonight is russianized and the mood is just as it was when the first wave arrived in berlin a century ago. many of the new immigrants are students. young russians adapt easily to life in german
he also loves his home country, the former soviet union. >> i don't love my soviet union because it was great. it was a terrible dictatorship. but, it was my home. you don't want to spend your whole lifetime there anymore than you want to spend your whole life with her mother. they would say, that guy has some kind of problem. more and more people are having little problem leaving their homes in the former soviet republics. marina came to berlin from kazakhstan to study music. today, she...
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in the private sector the unions are dominating and i've got to realize that all of these unions and hopefully your industry busting unions well i mean i if you look at where unions are gone now they're lobbying for higher taxes because they're dominating the government sector so they almost sort of have a case for them but if you pay in advance shares work there's no reason there mitt romney makes forty five million dollars a year and he only pays fifteen percent in taxes where his secretary thirteen point nine percent taxes on a secretary i don't have thirty five percent in taxes that's just unfair that's un-american like going to tell you where is the justice and the liberty and the equity that you guys like you as well but i will say on his little yes brian i would like people i. i agree with the buffett rule which the president is going to propose tonight that people like mitt romney should pay at least the same tax rates and barack obama there should have easily was the designer to let's not forget he was first found himself should pay a least the same taxes that their secretar
in the private sector the unions are dominating and i've got to realize that all of these unions and hopefully your industry busting unions well i mean i if you look at where unions are gone now they're lobbying for higher taxes because they're dominating the government sector so they almost sort of have a case for them but if you pay in advance shares work there's no reason there mitt romney makes forty five million dollars a year and he only pays fifteen percent in taxes where his secretary...
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again, the european union is one economic space. there isn't any duty there are not any borders, anything. -- there are not any borders, anything. doing business with germany is, of course, like doing business between two states within the united states. >> do you think the eu is going to survive? right now it is in a big crisis, isn't it? >> again, we would need another show. >> what would you think? >> i sincerely think that the european union as a project will survive and it is a good project because it has really taken away all of the trauma from the past. as i said, we used to have a little bit of discussion with germany. there was tension between germany and france after the war. and all of these tensions and recriminations are all gone within the european project because people can travel, do business, steady, and there are no borders. so this is really like making us all equal. that is good. >> that is good -- the good news. >> some of the integration of policies and processes were a little too politically motivated. that so
again, the european union is one economic space. there isn't any duty there are not any borders, anything. -- there are not any borders, anything. doing business with germany is, of course, like doing business between two states within the united states. >> do you think the eu is going to survive? right now it is in a big crisis, isn't it? >> again, we would need another show. >> what would you think? >> i sincerely think that the european union as a project will survive...
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you could say that a political union could be formed to have a stronger fiscal. coordination but also a better social policy that would sort of supporting bureau only in mice estimate is that this europe will not be able to form such a political union there is too much heterogeneity to countries to different. countries or to attach to their own so often t. they have different styles they have a hard time working together on international issues think of iraq. and so it will be very hard to to to have one address that foreigners can coal haven't emerged she is there. that they will speak with one voice that are willing to give up their very seats in the united nations and the i.m.f. and that they will speak involved voice it is at the moment inconceivable. that britain will give up their rights but also france is not even thinking of giving that up. germany will become too powerful there's simply too much that prevents europe from becoming one political union if you want a german chancellor i'm going merkel she said that political union is already taking shape is
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>> correct, justice sotomayor and that may vary from union to union from state to state even as some of the justices. >> i guess the problem is i don't see how that did in your argument is any less alone than this special assessment where the object of members of the end of the year will get notice of what has happened that year, will have an opportunity to place their challenges and get them moved upon and as justice breyer said have a benefit because they are either going to pay more or pay less if the weather challenges are held or pay more if they are not. but i'm not quite sure how this is different here is to make we disagree with the unions characterization's benefit but i see that my time is experience and i reserve the balance for the rebuttal. i will try to address the question more thoroughly when i stand up again. >> thank you, counsel. >> mr. chief justice may i please the court mr. ginsberg is absolutely correct that what we have suggested to the court is that the court of appeals decision be vacated with the consequences reinstating the district court judgment. why did
>> correct, justice sotomayor and that may vary from union to union from state to state even as some of the justices. >> i guess the problem is i don't see how that did in your argument is any less alone than this special assessment where the object of members of the end of the year will get notice of what has happened that year, will have an opportunity to place their challenges and get them moved upon and as justice breyer said have a benefit because they are either going to pay...
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caller: i am union, but i am old school union. am for health and safety and the union. -- in the union. with the state of wisconsin is doing as far as the union's goal, even a local ones, they can still negotiate wages and health care and everything else the only thing different with this collective bargaining is the state takes the money out of their checks and gives it to the union. the union does not get to work for their money. now the unions have to go to the people and say we're going to do this for you and this for you, and if the people do not like what they're telling them, they deducted paid three g they do not get paid. the governor has the state coming along -- they do not get paid perianth the government has the state coming along pretty good. i am old school, health and safety. a lost my point of view here. anyway. host: randy, we will leave it there. two calls talking about the unions. will that be the biggest issue when we finally get a republican nominee? guest: i did not think so. in the recall election, the bigg
caller: i am union, but i am old school union. am for health and safety and the union. -- in the union. with the state of wisconsin is doing as far as the union's goal, even a local ones, they can still negotiate wages and health care and everything else the only thing different with this collective bargaining is the state takes the money out of their checks and gives it to the union. the union does not get to work for their money. now the unions have to go to the people and say we're going to...
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after taking that beating yesterday in the state of the union, mr.o get away from another of their campaigns headaches right now, a spokesperson for mr. romney saying of his tax returns which we released yesterday "as far as we concerned, we put it to bed" i understand why the romney campaign may want to be done with the amazing issue of his tax returns but saying it is over does not make it over. just ask mr. romney's rival, newt gingrich. >> i think you have to live in a world of swiss bank accounts and cayman island accounts and $20 million and no work to have a fantasy this far from reality. >> if that weren't bad enough, mr. romney got the news, mr. gingrich's super pac has bought up time for six million dollars worth of anti-mitt romney tv ads in florida. one of the reasons mitt romney was seen as the inevitable candidate on the republican side because of the so-called money primary. that is the way the beltway talks about it, the primary and the more important money primary. a candidate showing the ability to build a base of donors and raise m
after taking that beating yesterday in the state of the union, mr.o get away from another of their campaigns headaches right now, a spokesperson for mr. romney saying of his tax returns which we released yesterday "as far as we concerned, we put it to bed" i understand why the romney campaign may want to be done with the amazing issue of his tax returns but saying it is over does not make it over. just ask mr. romney's rival, newt gingrich. >> i think you have to live in a world...
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a political union but my critique is that what is lacking and was really needed for political union is also in sense of society i take as an example germany germany is a society how do we notice that germany is a society the part of germany form east german states. that are a real dire financial economic situation much worse than greece is right now do you notice anything about that in the rest of the world. because west germans take it as as self as something self evident that they are to support the east german states those massive transfers of money going from west to east to maintain a sense of unity and a sense of stability and therefore a sense of society. those conditions are not in place and not can be imagined to be in place in europe at large how realistic is this transfer significant transfer of powers to brussels spending powers taxing powers given that you have so many different countries there's resistance coming from different places how realistic is it that it will actually happen the pressure is huge and the financial crisis is big and the euro threatens to fall then l
a political union but my critique is that what is lacking and was really needed for political union is also in sense of society i take as an example germany germany is a society how do we notice that germany is a society the part of germany form east german states. that are a real dire financial economic situation much worse than greece is right now do you notice anything about that in the rest of the world. because west germans take it as as self as something self evident that they are to...