our union battle segmenn. public policies. go ahead. make this date. how likely do you think that is. >> i don't think is likely. it already tried twice and fail to get the signatures to get it on the ballot. if they learned anything, anything in all from wisconsin, they know this is going to fail. it tried recalls. they tried to go after the lawmakers in indiana in the past tried to work in that state. guess what, republicans, both houses, increased margins. if they want to try it, let them flush down the toilet been given members more reasoned dissent and a choice to forget about it neil: it's a lot harder michigan . any eligible voter can get the signatures on. a lot stickier and tougher to do so in michigan. let's say they try. you think their failure >> well, if history is a lesson, it looks like they're probably going to fail. wasting resources and what they're going to do, part of what health the backbone for the lawmakers in michigan is seeing what happened in wisconsin and what happened in the ana where those lawmakers that shows freedom a