companies like alaska airlines, union pacific railroad, gulf power, and the cleveland clinic all telllace for years. employers say it's a move to control rising health care costs, while also making employees healthier. but where do you draw the line? i'm joined by katherine brady coppertino. her medical center is testing employees to possibly weed out smokers. how do you test for smokers? >> the test is done with the pre-hire drug test. we added nicotine to the urine test that we currently do. >> so it's just your regular urine test. >> it's a regular urine test, yes. >> and what's the cutoff? i mean, do you guys -- is it within the past three months? or is it within the past two weeks? within the past year? >> no, actually, we're planning a year-long ramp-up here, where we're offering the community intervention, smoking cessation groups. a lot of free support to stop smoking. so our policy actually goes into effect july of 2015. and at that time, the way that it works is you come in, you are interviewed for a position, you are offered a job at the hospital, and then you go to employe