. >> charlie: people argue if eece defaults and is not rescued by european unionor france or germany or whver is requed to do it, that it is like another lehman brothers. do you believe that? >> well, i think the application to those at risk and the european common market especially the southern tier countries is real and there's a chance of contagious on that because of the bank holdings. they ought to at least insist when they do that that there are the realistic options on the table for greece have to be enacted. but look, that same story's coming to us. we're not four or five years, three or four years behind greece. you know. that sounds radical but it is true. when you have, standard & poor's says the outlook on our debt is negative. we had moody's waing that they're not worried about our debt. we shouldn't be triple a rated right now given the fact we spent this entire year not doing anything about the problems in front of us. we're running up against the deadline rather than having really leadehip somebody talking to the american people and say look, we have lived t last 30 y