very thing that everyone has been encouraging, be fuel efficient, buy the electric car, they are unishede sense? >> i'm interested in funding o transportation system. i'm not interested in raising more taxes. our program is revenue neutral. you -- the reality is that it's not only oregon, but every state in the union and the fedel government is challenged with this situation where the federal government mandating through higher cafe standards, hi mileage vehicles. melissa: is can't be true or you wouldn't be doing it. >> caller: it's absolutely true. melissa: you are afraid to lose revenue down the road because of the standards because cars are more and more efficient so there's less revenue; right? >>aller: you cn't get something for nothing. we have to pay for the road systems, and the fuel tax has been over time a very first time way for the users of the highways to pay for them so all -- melissa: discouraging ommerce, people dring are, they are going to work, going shoppg, doing all the things we need them to do to fuel theeconomy. if you penalize them for driving around in the long