now, and unisys america, we very much at home because our founding fathers believed firmly that a publicare that was where religious values were absent, was -- the father lowcountry said it would be impossible for democracy to survive without a vibrant religious life. so the ability to bring religious values, your interior convictions to the public square, that is a catholic value. it is also very american value. now, how we do that is very important. we learn the hard way, you never want to coerce, you never want to impose, pope john paul ii used to say the church never imposes, she only proposes. in some of these issues, you mentioned some of them, whether it be the life of baby in the womb or gay marriage. for us, we would believe that our religious convictions don't just come from the catechism. don't just come from the bible as much as we cherish and depend upon those two sources. they also come from what we call natural law. that kind of hardwired in human psyche, is a basic sense of right and wrong. gerry: i want to comment, i think many people in the country feel the way in which