units. thank you. >> thank you. >> good evening. i am here on behalf of patrick kennedy and the housing action coalition. the housing action coalition has been working on this legislation with supervisor wiener's office. it follows logically from our efforts on student housing. small units of this kind are a logical fit for students. this is a great dorm room set up. we think this is a great concept to bring affordable by design units to market. i know there has been a lot of discussion and concerned about this being a new thing under the sun. it is not. san jose, santa maria, new york, seattle, all allow these types of units. i just passed around an article about a developer in seattle who has built a number of small unit buildings. they have brought affordable by design units to market. they typically rent for a round $500 to $650 a month. that is 1/3 the average rental rate of a seattle apartment. they're extremely popular and have less than 1% vacancy rate. closer to home, if i can get t

>> up to two units. >> it does not allow four units. has a discussion of happen -- the improvements are needed, so with the tenants have to move out? >> in order to legalize the units, yes. you have to basically legalize the electrical wiring, plumbing, and so forth. commissioner walker: i want to say that i got called by three or four prior tenants who wanted to remain anonymous, and they indicated that there were new tenants, as of february, march, april of this year. people had been removed, and they re--- it as early as spring of this year. -- they re-rented it as early as spring of this year. i guess i am curious about that. that it was not a continuous tenant. they just re-rented it, even with these violations. >> are we setting the property owner for illegal construction or illegal zoning use? >> we are setting the property owner for illegal creation of two units -- we are setting -- we are sending -- we are citing the property report illegal creation of two units. >> the department of building inspection cannot find violations o

usable open space and unit seismic requirements such as 40% allocated to two-bedroom units. based on staff analysis in these districts, and maximum increase -- a maximum increase of 10 in the population density might occur as a result of this ordinance. the last type of district is controlled by exposure, open space requirements, and item b. but they do not have the units per square foot or the next density controls. in this category of district, staff analysis suggests there might be a 30% increase. i want to emphasize this estimate is highly conservative. it is an over-estimation. we did not take into account the increase in open space use requirement that would happen as a result of the increase of the number of units. 30% is highly unlikely. it is an over-estimation. the open space requirements would be another control that would mitigate density increase as a result of the ordinance. the second issue that was a concern were quality of life issues and units. staff finds the ordinance would not change any of the existing code requirements regarding quality of life issues

units. i just passed around an article about a developer in seattle who has built a number of small unit buildings. they have brought affordable by design units to market. they typically rent for a round $500 to $650 a month. that is 1/3 the average rental rate of a seattle apartment. they're extremely popular and have less than 1% vacancy rate. closer to home, if i can get the overhead, please. we have seen a number of affordable housing developments that include units that are the same size as would be allowed by this legislation. 170 otis street is a project being built by chinatown development. the smallest units in that project are about 195 square feet. they go up to or above 300 square feet. you recently approved the transitional affordable housing project fo ryouth coming out of the foster care system. the units in that project are around 150 square feet. the primary example of a market rate project that has been built with smaller units around 250 square feet, the units in that proj

>> the 220 units is 15% of the overall units within the -- 20% -- thank you. for the requise minimum affordable housing requirement under the sud, therefore we feel the 220 it basedcjÑ upon what we calculates the numbers of units we could ultimately produce with the contribution both affordable rental initially and three the repayments from the downpayment assistance, we could produce at least 220 affordable units. >> -- supervisor mar: it just sounds as woefully inadequate. i know that even the housing element, 60% is at least affordable. i wonder if you have any sense of whether it just keeping the bare minimum given the impact of lower income people who may be part of the workforce from the development, could you address that? >> the administration clearly supports the development of affordable housing. i won't go back to the housing trust fund. the administration does not deal -- it is a collective responsibility. it should not be the burden of any one project to solve all problems the city may face as it relates to affordable housing. we think all project

it is closed to all of our units. a later interpretation of that section, adding neuss on to noncompliant structure by returning a shed into a deck was a discrepancy. their rear yard is an amenity for all residents of the building. when someone tried to turn it into private use, it was denied because it was a discrepancy. clearly, we think this is not legal under code. it also affects numerous people in the neighborhood. [inaudible] you will see that everyone around here, the red building is 1490. our people are directly concerned. i also have 85 signatures on a petition. half of the signatures come from the other side of the marina. i talked with each and every person who signed this petition. half of them are concerned because [inaudible] they are on every corner. they are designed to be uninhabited spaces that provide light, air, and privacy. it has been there since the 1920's. what we ask -- we think these decks changes the neighborhood character. we believed it is illegal overcoats. neither is needed. but a roof

, newspaper units and magazine units. anies oy s ouies outlet in whicd get some publicity back home in the united states. there was something i want to tell you then. i got off the track. i can't think of it right now. it shows that i had some things that i had to keep quiet. >> how did you get along with the other journalists? >> there were no other girls at that particular time except when i was -- carpenter and i went. and there was some girls in london, some that i knew who had gone over to england, one or two that had married and gone over. and those -- in london, of course, it was a different story. that was just like being home, as it were. going over, i mean, after i got over to france and that sort of thing, bumming around, and this other girl that was with me i was covering for part of the time, we separated and went on different units and that sort of thing. and i knew the nurses. i made a point of getting acquainted with any women units that were around. and you see, the british had women in uniform. military

111 units targeted to families. by 2017, losp will subsidize 1450 palomas units. -- homeless unit of the next chart is a new operating subsidies which ranges from 6000 to 11,000 per unit per year. building types include sro's or multi-bedroom apartment units, as well as population, single individuals versus families that very, which causes buildings to operate differently. that is why there is such a range in per unit subsidies. moh staff gathers monitoring information from annual reports, and this information includes specific operating data. we are just beginning the process of going through the information to fully understand how certain populations and building types impact a building's operation. as you can see there, predicted in 2017 with the 1400 units, the total for the program will be $17.1 million. in 2017, along with the service funding of $6.4 million, the total losp program funding will be $17 million, and this will be spent to provide nearly 1500 units of housing for formerly homeless persons. studies

we total about 2300 units. we have nearly 100 formerly homeless households in the tenderloin and the mission the benefits from the availability of losp funding. we expect another 172 tenants at our latest development that will come online this fiscal year. losp is critical as a tool for the homeless in san francisco. it is able to leverage millions of state, federal, and private dollars to help people but homeless as behind the. we believe that losp makes san francisco and national leader in its approach to ending homelessness, and that is of the oil should be very proud of. we encourage you to preserve losp funds for the arlington. thank you. >> good morning, supervisors. i am from fiscal community services. we provide shelter, behavioral health services, education, employment, and senior services for homeless people in san francisco. since 1994, we have provided supportive housing, helping people end homelessness in their own lives. today, warehousing and providing social services to 1000 formerly homeless me

111 units targeted to families. by 2017, losp will subsidize 1450 palomas units. -- homeless unit of the next chart is a new operating subsidies which ranges from 6000 to 11,000 per unit per year. building types include sro's or multi-bedroom apartment units, as well as population, single individuals versus families that very, which causes buildings to operate differently. that is why there is such a range in per unit subsidies. moh staff gathers monitoring information from annual reports, and this information includes specific operating data. we are just beginning the process of going through the information to fully

care outside of the united states. and the data, essentially, looks at medical tourism principally to places like india and singapore, and they always give the data above the numbers that go there -- about the numbers that go there. now, the vast, vast, vast majority of those are from southeast asia and the middle east and not from the united states. so it is a trickle of people who leave the united states for health care outside. i think it has almost negligible nick influence on health care in the united states. >> do the people who utilize your 24-hour call service have to have insurance? >> no. [laughter] >> aren't there other factors beyond smoking and obesity that cause ill health like chemicals, air and water quality, and what are you doing about these? [laughter] >> you guys are mean. there's no question that there are multiple other things that affect health care, but those are the, those are the three really big ones. the thing that concerns me, quite frankly, is the epidemic of autism. autism, frankly, was s

it is always is the gateway of the united states to china. as the economic and trade cooperation between china and the united states and california deepens, now we believe that trade and investment keeps growing. china is the third largest export destination for california. many multinationals like hp, intel, cisco, and chevron are doing well in china. they're making money in china. at the same time, as the close relationship is going on, many chinese companies are working in san francisco in california. i would like to name a few. the tsl, ciuts, just to name a few. these are successful chinese companies working here. as the american companies in china, the chinese companies working in california in san francisco are also making contributions to job creation and the development of the economy in local areas. we're thinking these are very good signs. as the previous speakers mentioned, we paid a visit to the united states last february. governor brown proposed that we set up a working group for the u.s., a state, and china provinces to cooper

is a continuation of the certain aspects of cold war policies the arms trade is a major issue the united states is the largest arms trader in the world it does thirty percent by a by export value russia great britain france and germany china are also part of the big six for the arms trade so today there is a continuation of soviet and american policies with russia the united states doing arms trade but yes it's about oil you for the united states yes it's about containing china in this is done under the banner of terror a war on terror ok peter where do you come in all this. well i agree that africa has increasingly a strategic importance to the united states but let's get some facts straight first for example if the pursuit was rid of terrorists was merely a cover for pursuing and defending oil interests the u.s. would certainly not have gone to back to bring about the independence of south sudan where eighty percent of the sudan's oil reserves are found and which goes almost exclusively to china the interest would be far more in the western part of the cause of the cotton in nigeria al

states they want the united states have africans kill other africans in their interest that's what it sounds like to me. no in this and this is my international are going to i mean first go ahead. i have to say that the you know africa was split up in these commands and it wasn't given much emphasis because nobody really cared about it frankly and now all you do is you hear the commander and other people in the in the command itself talking about what are the threats the threats to oil right so i think well is a major factor in this and we can't discount that i don't know as we're trying to the united states is trying to have afghans africans kill other africans but certainly we have all these military training programs with special forces around the world and that's kind of what end ends up happening we want geo political influence for oil and other reasons but what happens is a lot of the time unfortunately that all this training goes to repressing internal revolt and we try we say that we're instilling democratic values but you can't you can't do that in a seminar training course o

in the united states when people come to the united states they become us. i'm an italian descent, whether you are jewish-american or hispanic-american you become americans and maybe the first generation is whatever the home mother country was but by the second generation the kids are in the mall and have the earphones in and are normal american kids. we integrate them into our society. europe has failed to do that and i think that then presents a very different threat. i think what you'll see politically as the europeans go to the polls is that a voting block they cannot ignore and the worry is that as europe faces economic crisis, the margins of victory are ever, ever closer in any election that they cannot ignore that voting block. and if that voting block is radicalized then i think it becomes a serious and major problem for europe. >> as in t.t. mcfarland as in ambassador ware as in many of the women in public service or private life in colorado today and across the country, conservative women, women who love freedom, women who know what's at stake. in

this is an important anniversary for the united states, the united kingdom and canada.lly my friends governor o'malley and mayor rawlins blake for organizing this commemoration. in many ways it helped to define our young nation and gave americans a sense of unity and independence. it made an icon of the flag we fly and gave us the national anthem we sing. enduring symbols of our democracy. the end of the war laid the foundation for the growing relationship between the united states, the united kingdom and canada. bonds we now celebrate as the str strongest of allies and closest of friends. as our three nations mark this milestone, i'm confident our alliance will abe a force for good and together we will leave this world a better, safer place for generations to come. >> now the secretary of the united states navy, ray mapis. >> governor o'malley, senator, the entire maryland congressional delegation, madam mayor, to the ambassadors from the united kingdom and canada. i have two observances for you. one is that i had the privilege of participating in the normandy 68th ann

that joining the law of the sea is truly in the best interest of the united states. the u.s. relies on over 60% of all the energy we consume. recent projections by our own department of energy in the obama administration shows that 30 years from now, 57% of all the energy we consume in the united states will continue to be oil and natural gas. other projections show that the demand for world global energy led by oil and energy 20 to 30 years. energy is a very serious issue particularly to our global economy. companies spend billions of dollars annually looking for and producing oil and natural gas around the world to give you some insight from 2009 to 2011, the industry spent over $700 billion just in the united states drilling and exploring for additional opportunities. just last week at the lee sale conducted in the gulf of mexico, the u.s. oil and gas industry paid $1.7 billion in bonus bids to the federal government to secure rights to develop those resources in the gulf of mexico. preliminary studies estimate that the u.s. extended continental shelf as a result of the la

and settled in the united states, at united states children and citizen wife. as a whole we want to address this issue. >> host: palm beach, florida. >> caller: thank you. very hard work. i want to comment on the integration of the u.s. army with the mexican army and heading towards north american union and something that might be dangerous for our health and safety laws friday while enforcement perspective. >> host: do you see a lack of sovereignty? >> guest: that won't happen. very simple, mexico is a sovereign nation. they are proud to be a sovereign nation. we are sovereign nation in the united states. we all need to cooperate as neighboring countries for the security. not just of our region but the security of the entire world. we work closely together. i want to say i am proud of the service, work very much on our behalf to protect our country and i will tell you one thing about immigration as well. i had the pleasure of naturalizing many immigrants who serve in our armed forces and became united states citizens. we deal with immigration, it is a huge com

we are going to take our united states air force in has not been at since we created the modern day united states air force. we do not have a credible military threat right now. we have men and women who have been on five and six combat tours of duty. they are supposed to have a narrowly defined mission sets. we are supposed to believe they are being -- the soup de jour. what we have failed to do is look at the world broken down with the geographical aor, and look from the next 10-15 years. what is the bible direct we are going to face? and build -- what is being -- the viable threat we are going to face? it cannot be budget based. it has to be based on the threat that is out there. when you look across the globe right now, when you look at the belligerence you see coming out of russia, when you look at the fact that china, with the trade imbalance that they have, their growing economy is not going toward improving the standard lot of living of the chinese citizens. the best standard of living of the chinese citizens. they are looking to increase their military capability. what are we doin

the market rate part in giving the right incentives to developers and building the right kinds of units is also a piece of that puzzle. i believe that this measure, although, you know, it is described as a start, is a pretty significant start to addressing the crisis, and also very happy to be co sponsoring and supporting it. i look forward to the work this fall. supervisor kim: supervisor campos? supervisor campos: thank you, madam chair. again, thanks to everyone for their work. as we are looking ahead to what happens at the board of supervisors, i still think that it would be helpful for me and perhaps others on the board to hfp8have a better understandingf how some of the exemptions or the exceptions work, whether it is in terms of planning be good to get a better sense of that. i know that, as it was indicated, with respect to 8 washington, there are specific reasons why the project would be exempted, but i do want to have a better understanding of the applicability, if you will, of some of these provisions. they might be relating to other changes that might be needed. i know that,

there are five units next to or above the proposed private unit. all of these units face security issues from the garage deck. there is no fire protection. the proposed building roof deck impacts these five units disproportionately as it is placed on their side of the building. this exposes them to additional noise and security issues of people climbing down a fire escape with direct access to their units. i will now read a statement regarding the impact of 1490 residents from the former tenant of unit 3. who live there if for 31 years. i resided in unit 3. for 31 years. from 1978 until 2009. it connects to the building next door. many marine the apartment buildings have similar one-story garages. this allows all units of but in both buildings to have windows, light, and air. adding a deck will provide an alliance to the units above. once constructed, there is no control over how and when it is used. it is also -- and will also cause a loss of privacy for the apartment above and behind the building. allowing this to be built will set a precedent fo

i think israel and the united states have a relationship that if the united states abandons israel, and europe certainly did after the 1973 war, i think that tears at the soul of america. there's one country in the middle east that has stood by us, is a thrive democracy, a group of people that have gone to the desert and turned it green, is israel. we owe them a relationship where we stand by them. not where we stand by them at the expense of all else, but we should -- the survival of the state of israel [ inaudible ]. period. now, what happens if israel is looking at the clock and i think netanyahu probably wakes up every morning and there are three alarm clocks next to the bed. one says how much time does israel have before iran develops nuclear weapons. the second clock is how much time does israel have to stop iran, israel/the united states to stop iran, either with an attack, either with sanctions that we've just instituted, or with cyberattacks. the third clock is the american election because just think of whether the swing states likely to be in the election, florida, and if the

the united states. there was something else i wanted to tell you. i can't think of it right now. shows i had to keep quiet. >> how did you get along with the other journalists? >> there were no other girls except when carpenter and i went. there was some girls in london, some that i knew, who had gone over to england, one or two that had married and gone over. and those -- well n londoin lon course, was a different story. just like being at home. on going over, after i got over to france and that sort of thing, bumming around, and the gal that was with me, inez carpenter, part of the time, we separated and went on different units and that sort of thing. and i knew the nurses. they had a point of getting acquainted with any -- any women units that were around. and, you see, the british had women in uniform. military uniform. well, i was -- the uniform i was wearing was a done over wac uniform and pretty dirty. i had two. but it didn't have any insignia until i finally blew my stack and said, put somethin

there will be new units. they will not be the same unit. but this is very similar to the type of thing that is being done, or was done, with trinity plaza, on a smaller scale. it was crafted so that all of the existing tenants would continue on at the same level of rental in a new, safer, a larger unit. those units that are out there are no more than two-bedroom. there are no 3-bedroom units. the new project will allow this, which will be better for families. it will also densify. i think the density, what you are doing is, in my mind -- you are keeping the same number of affordable rental units. you are adding additional market right now until units. also, some units for sale, which meet some of the needs of my children and my children's generation. that could be a possibility, when that thing is built, particularly if they want to stay there. i do not think there is jeopardy to the rent-controlled units or existing residence. my understanding is there is not. the development agreement that was crafted their pressures this. there is a poss

it is about audiences in britain or the united states. we have this extraordinary privilege of the license fee and other funding that enables the bbc to be a strong, robust journalistic organization. that is what we do. we tried to get -- we

a statement that citizens united posts a serious threat to democracy by allowing unlimited corporatepending to influence elections, candidates election, and policy decisions. a stiffer san francisco voters to affirm that corporate -- corporations should not receive the same constitutional rights as natural persons and that corporate money is not a form of constitutionally protected free speech. also a statement for san francisco voters to affirm that they support efforts of congress to pass a constitutional amendment to end corporate personhood, reversing the decision of citizens united case and calling on to other jurisdictions that passed similar measures and resolutions. i would like to thank common cause for their support, public citizen, my friend, a san francisco citizen and resident, linda, an intern in my office, raquel from my office for her work in crafting this resolution in mobilizing support. i would like to thank my colleagues, supervisor campos for his co-sponsor ship, and it sounds like supervisor wiener is a co-sponsor as well. and i feel like at this time when we're

citizens united.e corruption before citizens united. >> i think people make this argument and i think if you're looking at what happened post citizen united, alter the norms. the decision has altered the norms of conduct. they do matter. there is a reason when you look at the charts of these sorts of guys. yes, sheldon addison could have done it before and the thing that has changed in the intervening years. the other important point and the bizarre thing about the way this election is being run, a major ruling citizen united and then another court ruling speech now which is essentially controlling this entire area of law right now. the constitution of super pacs comes from the speech uncertainty and a tremendous uncertainty about what the law does and does not allow you to do. >> i was talking to a political analyst in preparation for the show and they rolled it back and said, look, if you think about what happened with the obama election and the fact that that really democratized people giving mone

one of these other operating units wundt through three somehow was vented in by a common route into route four into unit four and that's what caused the explosion the universe this is the explosion house number one that was number one ok and the it's remarkable the. the end that spent fuel pool of at the top and you know four is still there kevin. the the building is. listening. is that the yeah it has been since almost the beginning of the catastrophe so it's described as listing the new york times last week called it tilting there's actually two bulges in the walls the exterior walls of the building which is not a good sign despite all of this tokyo electric power company assures everybody everything's fine except when a high level government minister went there at the end of may it was disconcerting that he said to the press that we're following him around in radiation suits all this is a good structure it's good up to a six point zero earthquake well that's not what's being discussed what's being discussed is the ninety percent probability that there will be a seven point zero e

bilateral trade between the united states and mexico matters to both the united states and mexico. it's enormous, and can it's enormously important to both sides. you know, we've gotten to this milestone, i think, on service trade numbers are not out yet for 2011, but i think we've gotten to this milestone of a half a trillion dollars in goods and services trades between the two countries this past year. it's just enormous. it's obviously important to mexico where the united states makes up to around 85% of its export market, but it's also extremely important to the united states. trade, as this chart shows, has quintupled since 1993 which was right as nafta was produced and put into effect in 1994. but what i do want you to take notice as you remember as we move forward is that this growth in trade, this blue line that grows doesn't grow steadily. there are some turns, and i think those turns mark some of the defining points in the way the border's been managed and really in our economic relationship between the two countries as a whole. you see one around that 2000-2001 marker tu

currency of the united states. it was constant in its purchasing power and in its definition, but for the interruption of the civil war, until 1934. so the value of a currency defined by statute in gold weight had many examples in this feeble, imperfect laboratory of human history of a very stable purchasing power. what edward i think is getting at is that there were always bankers and politicians who wished to prorate the monetary system in order to finance political subsidies to privileged classes, including cartelized banking systems or military establishments. for example, it is a fact that the bank of england was established not to be the lender of last resort, despite the comments of chairman bernanke in his lecture in washington, the bank of england was established to finance the fisc of the united kingdom. the first central banks of germany, the reich bank of prussia, was established to finance the prussian army. napoleon's establishment of the bank of france was not -- but it was established to finance nap

the moral standing of the united states major setback of credibility of the united states. the united states of america pretending, acting the leader of the free world and yet and expanded in torture and abroad. the economic costs of the 9/11 war between three to $5 trillion. three to $5 trillion. >> it's one of those members i've been using and hearing and writing this for so long and it's one of those numbers that is so large it is almost impossible to comprehend. what is a trillion? i can't quite imagine a million. >> guest: think about when barack obama came and said 700 million, $700 billion in order to basically reconstct the american economy, think of the cry. you are spending $700 billion. we don't have $700 billion. we dn't even have $3 trillion we have spent. most of the money was borrowed not to mention just about economic cost is also about the opportunity cost. while the united states was chasing the jihadis in afghanistan and pakistan the war was going on so barack obama inherited the legacy of the economic decline and also the rise of the geostrategic power c

states and the united kingdom.ory had a turbulent beginning. indeed visiting the white house earlier this year, i was a little embarrassed to confess this managed to burn the place down. today as you sit at fort mchenry, the sight so ably defended by u.s. soldiers against the brits, you can't help but think of the battle of baltimore, the event that inspired the star-spangl"star-s banne banner". in part i suppose you can sort of thank the british for your national anthem. now, the war's origins may be obscured today, but what maps maerts since the end the two countries have been allies for almost 200 years. that eelgsship has strengthened constantly in depth and breadth. generations of british and american servicemen and women who fought together from normandy to the korean peninsula to afghanistan. there is no more tangible illustration of our two nations defending our valuables and the interests than the mutual sacrifice made by our service men and women. but ours is not just a security alliance, it's also in bus

a lot of negative peers on the unit i'm on now.come here i have an opportunity to go home. >> we get up at 4:50 in the morning, will that be a problem. >> no, sir. >> it's a very structured environment. go to bed at the same time. there's no horseplay, absolutely no horseplay. is that going to be a problem? >> no, sir. >> 2100 is lights out, taps. there is no talking. if you were to be caught talking, the whole room gets up and does pt. >> would you have any problems with that? >> no, sir. >> how are you going to be able to handle taking direction and orders from other guys in your position?ç >> well, sir, i would think to myself if i listen to them then maybe one day i'll be able to get up there and be able to be the one. >> yeah, is great answer. >> even though this offender has all of the right answers, the decision to accept him into the unit is complicated. >> these juveniles come from horrible backgrounds. i tend not judge them but we want to ask yourselves do we think that they'll learn in this unit. >> the military team mu

right law in the united states when it comes to guns how powerful is the lobby. well you know i don't know that i'm the i'm the person that's the expert just speak on that i'm mark maybe a better person to speak on that but i do think that when we look at the politics let's just take cars and guns and we look at the at the politics of regulation well in california for example fairly recently we we increased the regulation of driving for fifteen and a half you can get a permit sixteen seventeen years old below eighteen years old it's a regulated system and it's a gradual system and you don't get handed the keys on your sixteenth birthday and those regulations were adopted in a reasoned and reasonable environment where the issue of safety was debated and statistics were looked at and we have a very different system of driving for sixteen eighteen year olds now than we did when i was sixteen years old but the question is about the gun situation why can't we have the same reasoned debate and moving forward on on on changes in the law and policy and regulation based o

how about the gang unit on the scene? >> they did not say anything about the gang unit being on the scene. they were talking the initial numbers of those killed and injured and they have the individual in custody. >> do police believe he had assistance if planning the attack or in doing this last night? >> if they do they are not telling us. i asked specifically because i have been reporting all morning they looked for a second individual. i asked where the reports came from. he was not sure the but they believe they have the only person involved. that is the eyewitness account. >>heather: the shooter's name has not been release the? >>guest: correct. >>heather: and this is the century 16 movie theater at the aurora town center. again, around 1:00 o'clock a.m., local time, this this aurora, colorado, 14 people injured and at least 39 transported. justin, have you been able, i know you were at the news conference listening to what the police chief had to say were you able to speak with the witnesses there on the scene? i u

what should the dialogue be in the united states and these countries and in the united states? >> on the migration issues - we need a whole different new perspective. if you look domestically at the country, you are looking at it an aging population and even though we are in the midst of high unemployment, and people think today if you look ten years from now, this country is going to have deficit both at the low end and at the high end. so i think we need to get migration very differently. secondly, from the sort of more we work with and collaborate with our partners to the south to develop economic opportunities at home, the less migration we are going to have in this country. and i think to the degree that we can reform our immigration law and have an honest conversation about migration and separate because there are two issues. first is the contentious issue that we are dealing with and we hear about all the time is the number of immigrants in this country and what we are going to do with those individuals and that is what gets the headlines. what doesn't get the headline i