well certainly in the the united banana republic states it is pretty difficult because the forces of evil are really numerous and they all hold positions where you mean you can see what they've done i mean people people commit crimes by modifying f.b.i. 3 o 2 don't get held accountable for it and they take devastate other people and so you know the government is just so criminal now i just it's hard to it's hard to see you you really have to have a rest moods roots movement from the local area on up i mean i mean it was a very truman who once said you don't get rich being a politician unless you're a crook well how many people down in washington and rich that's a really good observation i have just like a minute left and i want to ask you did you ever think you know you came forward back in 2001 blew the whistle a lot of water wrongdoings that you saw taking place at the n.s.a. did you ever think that it would get to be as bad as you see it today with the amount of spying i mean amount of. truly you know lockdown elements that but we don't really feel but it's happening all around us

have actual political figures, right, that he would actually see this in maybe banana republicing maybe, and not the united states, but you have elected officials enabling trump on this. you have other voices out there, like mike pence. i have to say that i was appalled when i saw the op-ed he penned. granted he was talking about hr-1, and i'm not here to debate the policy on that, but he doubled down on the story of election fraud and voter fraud. he basically doubles down on a big lie that led to calls for his hanging. i was shocked he would do that. he is part of that disinformation machine, right? he is doubling down on this, feeding that out to people who are paying attention, who are listening to it. i think all of this is actually dangerous. they're all part of it. >> it's amazing. we care more that they wanted to hang mike pence than mike pence does. >>> thank you to all of you. >>> when we come back, the nation is so close to heading the other direction in the pandemic, the end is in sight. president joe biden today in that vein, calling the decisions by states like texas, to open up again, quote