the paper produced by the united nations environmental program. they have case studies and show that a green economy can work. the background to all of this is, if financial value is not placed on anything, then people do not value such things. this is fundamentally flawed. to start with that kind of premise. in the report, they say pollinators provided $190 billion. we challenged this. how can you estimate this? how can you put a monetary value to that? with this kind of platform, we find a lot of space for economies, scientists, corporations, who would jump in to begin to come modify every aspect of nature, including the air. the air has been ground, the water, forests, soil. the world is now facing a crisis and this crisis is not providing a way out of the crisis. >> nnimmo bassey, speaking to us from rio de janeiro, from the largest un some of its kind ever. more than 130 world leaders are there. president obama is not there, although he was in copenhagen. the u.s. is being represented by secretary of state hillary clinton. can you comment on