he's a senior researcher, the united nations institute for disarmament research. he joins me from geneva in switzerland and now since the u. s. dropped to nuclear bombs on japan in 1945, no country has ever used nuclear weapons in a war. how close do you think russia is to breaking that taboo? i don't think that we are that close of the main reason for that is that there are simply no plausible military missions for nuclear weapons in this type of war. you mentioned earlier that tactical nuclear weapons were going to be used in the battle field against airfields in columns of tanks and things like that. and this is just not the kind of a conflict, any use of nuclear weapons in this nation would be just either really use against us or, you know, one population or as a demonstration of our resolve and readiness to use nuclear weapons against one population in a strategic condition with the goal of changing the strategic outcome of this a war. so you say that let me put in what even refrain from using tactical nuclear weapons? well, it's hard for me to say with certa

united nations security council itself, or it's inaction and basically calling for a reform of the united nations security council. it's important to stress that the united nations security council has one of that key un institutions, holes. a lot of power, for example, has the capacity to present binding resolutions. yet at the same time, the 5 permanent members of that security council have a veto power. and one of those 5 members is russia, which basically means that on this particular case, it is very difficult to have concrete action from the united nations security council. and that was something that mr. savanski with this particular sound might but more in general with his age clearly tried to criticize. that's why he was asking for more action coming from the united nations security council. and now the atrocities, sir, that have been perpetrated in boucher that the world has seen and leaders and people around the world are shocked by the images. a news coming out of their talk just a little bit about what effect that has had on germany and german leaders. well, germany as well as other european countries announced that it was expelling russian diplomats in particular, 40 russian diplomats of the russian

opinion, at least in germany, they are categorically against the destruction of the institutions of the united nationstitution. they understand that even with all the minuses. with all the constant groans, russia uses the veto. russia does not provide an opportunity and a lot of some problems. all the same, the institution exists. it allows you to work in some way, and work with it in some way , but nevertheless, of course, it would be nice to limit russia in this and create conditions for entry. e germany here in this club. the great ones are not for nothing. e schultz said, and we're all talking about it now, they emphasized that the old story ended, a new one began. that is, as if now is over, our yoke of the vanquished and the yoke. uh, rogue country criminal country, as they say, which means we have the right to enter the club of the greats. moreover, to enter the club of the great is no longer able to be on an equal footing with everyone, but in fact, being a vassal, uh, a big anglo-saxon brother, that is, in this regard, germany does not pose a danger not to france , uh, not to great britain or

institutions. the united nations can be simply closed. ladies ladies and gentlemen, are you ready to close an? -- close international law do you think the time of international law is gone? if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. the u.n. charter must be restored immediately. the u.n. system must be reformed immediately so the veto is not the right to die, that there is a fair representation in the security council of all regions of the world. the aggressor must be brought to peace immediately. determination is needed. the massacre from syria to somalia, from afghanistan to libya, that should have been stopped a long time ago, to tell you the truth. if tyranny had at least once received such a response to the war it had it reached, it would have ceased to exist and honest peace would be guaranteed after it and the world would have changed for sure. and then, perhaps, there would not be war in my country against our people against ukrainian people, against our citizens. the world watched and did not want to see either the occupation of crimea or the war against georgia or taking

united nations. political institutions are fundamentally broken. >> reporter: former u.n. been a united nations booster. >> i think that is unfixable. >> reporter: neither is liz cheney. >> it's not the effective entity people hoped would be when created. >> reporter: that was in 1945, when the world war ii victors established the security council with five permanent members. today, those are the u.s., france, the uk, china and russia. each with veto power that joseph stalin himself insisted. the word has changed but the council still remains largely as it was 77 years ago. that is, russia has the power to veto any resolution it opposes. >> it's like giving a senator on the floor a veto over any legislation, without any overrides? >> exactly. and what we're seeing is when there's a fundamental disagreement among the permanent members, nothing happens. >> reporter: suggestions to reform the council by adding more permanent members, or removing vetoes altogether have been nonstarters. as former u.n. ambassador bill richardson points out, it's all about keeping power. >> i'm b

institutions. the united nations can be on simply close. ladies and gentlemen, i are ready to close the un. do you think that the time of international law is gone? if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. you, there, you n. charter must be restored immediately. the u. n. system must be reformed immediately. so that the veto is not the right to die. that there is a fair representation in the security council of all region of their world, their grass and mars to be brought to peace, immediately, determination is needed, the massacre from syria to. so molly somali, i'm from afghanistan, know yemen and libya that should have been stopped a long time ago to tell her the truth. if tiredly had at least once received such a respond to the war, it had b, we had read, it would have to cease to exist, and honest bees hadn't been guaranteed after it and the world would have changed for sure. and then perhaps that would not be war in my country, not against our people against ukrainian people against our citizens. but the world watched and did not want to see either the occupation of cri

institutions. the united nations can be simply closed. ladies and gentlemen, i am ready to are you ready to close the u.n.? do you think the time of international law is gone? if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. the u.n. charter must be restored immediately. the u.n. system must be reformed immediately so the veto is not the right to die, that there is a fair representation in the security council of all regions of the world. the aggressor must be brought to peace immediately. determination is needed. the massacre from syria to somalia, from afghanistan to libya, that should have been stopped a long time ago, to tell you the truth. if tyranny had at least once received such a response to the war it had it reached, it would have ceased to exist and honest peace would be guaranteed after it and the world would have changed for sure. and then, perhaps, there would not be war in my country against our people against ukrainian people, against our citizens. the world watched and did not want to see either the occupation of c

i thought one more convert to understanding what's wrong with the united nations is political institutions fundamentally broken. >> reporter: former u.n. ambassador john bolton has never been a united nations booster. >> i think it is unfixable. >> reporter: neither has liz cheney. >> it is not the kind of effective entity people hoped it would be when it was created. >> reporter: that was in 1945 when the world war ii victors established the u.n. security council with five permanent members. today those are the u.s., france, the uk, china, and russia. each with veto power as joseph stalin himself insisted. the world has changed, but the council remains largely as it was 77 years ago, that is, russia has the power to veto any resolution it opposes. it's like giving a senator on the floor a veto over any legislation without any -- >> exactly. what we're seeing is when there's a fundamental disagreement among the permanent members, nothing happens. >> reporter: suggestions to reform the council by adding more permanent members or removing vetoes all together have been nonstarters. as form er

united nations. it's political institutions are fundamentally broken. >> reporter: former u.n. ations booster. >> i think it is unfixable. >> reporter: neither has liz cheney. >> it is not the kind of effective entity people hoped it would be when it was created. >> reporter: that was 1945 when the world war ii victors established the u.n. security council with five permanent members. today those are the u.s., france, the uk, china, and russia. each with veto power as joseph stalin himself insisted. the world has changed but the council still remains largely as it was 77 years ago. that is, russia has the power to veto any resolution it opposes. it's like giving a senator on the floor a veto over any legislation without any overriding? >> exactly. what we're seeing when there is a fundamentally disagreement among the permanent members, nothing happens. >> reporter: suggestions to reform the council by adding more permanent members or removing vetoes all together have been non-starters. as former u.n. ambassador bill richardson points out, it's all about keeping power. >> i am be

united nations. it's political institutions are fundamentally broken. >> reporter: former u.n. john bolton has never been a united nations booster. >> i think it is unfixable. >> reporter: neither has liz cheney. >> it is not the kind of effective entity people hoped it would be when it was created. >> reporter: that was in 1945 when the world war ii victors established the u.n. security council with five permanent members. today those are the u.s., france, the uk, china, and russia. each with veto power as josef stalin himself insisted. the world has changed, but the council still remains largely as it was 77 years ago, that is, russia has the power to veto any resolution it opposes. >> it's like giving a senator on the floor a veto over any legislation without any overrides. >> exactly. and what we're seeing is when there's a fundamental disagreement among the permanent members, nothing happens. >> reporter: suggestions to reform the council by adding more permanent members or removing vetoes altogether have been non-starters. as former u.n. ambassador bill richardson points

the united nations as an institution is failing him and failing us all. the problem is the united nations was created as a venue where the great powers of the day would come together. not meant to be used by one great power against another. it has no real capacity, other than what the great powers agree to do. again, the speech was understandable but i'll be brutally honest with you, it's not going to make a difference in terms of the u.n. it's not going to help what the president obviously wants, which is an end to this war and obviously no russian military escalation. it simply won't effect the basic dynamics. >> and richard and ambassador mcfall, i want to share withia that i'm told that joint chiefs chairman, mark milley just told the house arms services committee that when they're talking about a protracted war, it was suggested by jake sullivan yesterday at the white house briefing that we're talking about months. mark milley said in years, if not decades, i believe. he doesn't know about decades is what he said, actually. we're talking about years a

institutions. the united nations can be owned simply close young ladies and gentlemen, i ready to close the un. do you think that the time of international law is gone? if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. you there, you n. charter must be restored immediately, the un system must be reformed immediately so that the veto is not the right to die . that there is a fair representation in the security council of all region of their world, their grass and mars, to be brought to peace, immediately, determination is needed. the massacre from syria to. so molly somali, i'm from afghanistan to yemen and libya that should have been stopped a long time ago to tell her the truth. if ty rodney had at least once received such a respond war, it had b, we had reached, it would have to cease to exist, and honest bees hadn't been guaranteed for it. and the world war to have changed for sure. and then perhaps, that would not be war in my country, not against our people against ukrainian people against our citizens. but the world watched and did not want to see either the occupation of crimea or

absolutely right and i think one more concept to understanding what's going on with the united nations is political institutionsf effective entity people hoped it would be when it was created. >> reporter: that was in 1945 when the world war ii victors established the u.n. security council with five permanent members. today, those are the u.s., france, the uk, china and russia, each with veto power as joseph stalin himself insisted. the world has changed, but the council still remains largely as it was 77 years ago, that is, russia has the power to veto any resolution it opposes. >> it's like giving a senator on the floor a veto over any legislation without any over-rise. >> zaexactly and we're seeing wn there's a fundamental disagreement among primary members, nothing happens. >> reporter: accounts by removing permanent members or vetos all together have been nonstarters as former u.n. ambassador bill richardson points out it's all about keeping power. >> i'll be honest with you, i don't think anyone will want to give up their veto. >> reporter: and russia is not about to vote itself off the security council e

institutions. the united nations can be simply closed, ladies and gentlemen, are you ready to close the un? do you think that the time of international law is gone? if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. >> so once he has said that bucha, for all its horrors, may not be the worst of it. that other places like the devastated town of borodyanka, 15 miles away, may have suffered even more civilian casualties. new atrocities will be revealed as ukrainian forces volodymyr zelenskyy went to bucha to see the carnage for himself. and today in addressing the nation, security council, he described civilians being tortured people shot in the back of the head with our hands bound. women raped in front of their families. his anger was palpable. >> [interpreter] if this continues, the countries will be rely only on the power of their own arms to ensure their security. and not on international law. not rely on international institutions. the united nations can be simply closed, ladies and gentlemen, are you ready to close the un? do you think that the time of international law is gone? if

united nations headquarters. the security council received letters in which the london petro the front reminded members face that i quote, when the institution of the united nations was created after the 2nd world war. one of these fundamental objectives was to see to each that what happened to the jews in nazi germany would never happen again. and of quote, $994.00. rwanda itself was a non permanent member of the security council. this allowed the genocidal regime to influence the members of the console. with this view of the situation, as the russians presence today in the security council allowed to spend the spread lies almost daily in april. again, in april, these time 2006 in the docs of new york by the hudson river in ocean size, the state of the art liner was launched. these magnificent lajna was been ducked on the shores of lake geneva. beautiful as if these far from being an ocean when aim to these liner, the human rights cancel, the adoption of resolution, 60 slash $250.00. 1 was a combination of 5 months of consultations and negotiations facilitated by president of the assembly. yon l. yes, and, and then back to the audience will

institution. you heard his speech during the last u.n. security council meeting. the united nationstary-general can do more in order to be helpful in politically -- both politically and economically to defend ukraine against russian aggression. >> i wanted to ask you, igor, president zelenskyy has been very clear that he believes one key to stopping russia is that europe more fully cut off oil and gas and cut themselves off from oil and gas imports from russia. the german chancellor said in a new interview that he does not believe that would end the war. i want to read the quote from the german chancellor. he said, i absolutely do not see how a gas embargo would end the war. if putin were open to economic arguments, he would never have begun this crazy war. what do you think of that? >> you know, even before the war, putin always boasted that sanctions do not influence ru russia's economy, which is absolutely not the case, and we see that current sanctions which have been already implemented. we are talking about germany. germany was active in implementing five packages of eu sancti

[captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from south carolina seek recognition? >> madam speaker, as the member designated by ms. mace, i inform the house that ms. mace will vote aye on h.r. 1218. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from new york seek recognition? mr. jeffries: as the member designated by chairwoman ■eddie bernice johnson and chairman david scott, i inform the house that these members will vote yea on h.r. 1218. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman seek recognition? mr. pallone: madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. albio sires, mrs. ann kirkpatrick, and ms. lucille roybal-allard, i inform the house that these members will vote yes on h.r. 1218. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the ge

institutions. the united nations, are you ready to close up the u.n.?hink the time of international law is gone. if your answer is no then you need to act immediately. the u.n. charter must be restored immediately paid the u.n. system must be reformed immediately so that this veto is not the right to die, that there is a fair representation in the security council of all regions of the world. being brought to peace immediately, determination needed. the massacre from syria to somalia, from afghanistan to yemen and libya, that should've have been stopped a long time ago. if tyranny had seen such a response to the war we had waged, it would have ceased to exist and peace would be guaranteed after it and the world would've changed for sure. and then perhaps there would not be war in my country. our people against ukrainian people against our citizens. but the world watched and did not want to see either the occupation of crimea or the war against georgia or taking the entire -- from moldova, but the basis for other conflicts and wars at their borders. how

united nation needs to guarantee? it is obvious that the key institution of their world, which must ensure that the coercion of an aggressive to me is simply cannot work effectively. now the world can see that their russian mil, what russian military did in butcher while keeping the city under their occupation . but the world has yet to see what they have done in other occupied cities and regions of our country. geography might be different or various bud. cruelty is the same. crimes are the same and accountability must be inevitable. ladies and gentlemen, i would like to remind you of article one, chapter, one of the you on charter. what is the purpose of our organization? its purpose is to maintain peace and make sure that peace is adhered to. and now the un charter is violated. literally starting with the article one. and if so, what is the point of all other articles today as a result of russia's actions in our country in ukraine, the most terrible war crimes of all times are. we see at the since lower end of world war 2 and they are being committed russians, troops are deliberately destroying in ukrainians.

institutions. the united nations can be simply closed, ladies and gentlemen, are you ready to close the u.n.?if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. the u.n. charter must be restored immediately. the u.n. system must be reformed immediately, so that the it is not the right to die. that there is rare representation of all region in the world. they must be brought to peace immediately. the massacre from syria to somalia, from afghanistan to yemen and libya, that should have been stopped a long time ago, to tell the truth. if tyranny had had received a response to the war, we had reached, it would have ceased to exist and peace would be guaranteed after it and the world would have changed for sure. and perhaps there would not be war in my country against our people. against ukrainian people, against our citizens. but the world watched and did not want to see it, either the occupation of crimea or the war against georgia or taking the entire transgression from moldova, and how russia was preparing the basis for other conflicts and wars near their borders. how to stop it? right awa

institutions. the united nations can be simply closed, ladies and gentlemen, are you ready to close the u.n.s gone? if your answer is no, you need to act immediately. the u.n. charter must be restored immediately. the u.n. system must be reformed immediately so that the veto is not the right to die, that there is a fair representation in the security council of all regions of the world. the aggressor must be brought to peace immediately. the determination is needed. the massacre from syria to somalia from afghanistan to yemen and libya, that should have been stopped a long time ago to tell the truth. if tyranny had at least once received such a response to the war, it had reached, it would have ceased to exist and peace had been guaranteed after it and the world would have changed for sure. and then perhaps, there would not be war in my country against our people, against ukrainian people, against our citizens, but the world watched and did not want to see either the occupation of crimea or the war against georgia or taking the entire from moldova and how russia was preparing, but the b basi

institutions. the united nations can be simply closed. ladies and gentlemen, i am ready to -- are you ready to close the u.n.? do you think the time of international law is gone? if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. the u.n. charter must be restored immediately. the u.n. system must be reformed immediately so the veto is not the right to die, that there is a fair representation in the security council of all regions of the world. the aggressor must be brought to peace immediately. determination is needed. the massacre from syria to sew malia, from afghanistan -- sew malia, from afghanistan to libya, that should have been stopped a long time ago, to tell you the truth. if tyranny had at least once received such a response to the war it had -- it reached, it would have ceased to exist and honest peace would be guaranteed after it and the world would have changed for sure. and then, perhaps, there would not be war in my country against our people -- against ukrainian people, against our citizens. the world watched and did

institution. the united nations can be simply closed, ladies and gentlemen. are you ready to close the u.n.? do you think that the time of international law is gone? if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. >> zelenskyy has said that bucha for all its horrors may not be the worst of it. that other places like the devastated town of borodynka 15 miles away may have suffer forward atrocities. able to start recovery efforts not just in cities and towns but even on the roads in between them. just outside of kyiv there's an important highway connecting the capital to the region. people are using it to evacuate. it's become a humanitarian corridor. for almost 40 days, russian troops tried to enter kyiv, they couldn't do it, on the way to the capital on the highway between kyiv, they destroyed everything they could. people were killed, bodies strewn about on the roadside. we know this because the highway has since been liberated by ukrainian forces. but much of what is left behind is hard to watch. a ukrainian member of parliament visited the area. >> i'm in kyiv, on the highway kyiv

will be directed to payments to ukrainians, the increase of humanitarian aid, institutions, agencies of the united nations system, and it was confirmed to us today in the conversation of the president of ukraine that the emphasis in aid will be on direct payments to the citizens of ukraine in cash together with the government of ukraine. this is an extremely important decision and agreement, and it will cover millions of our citizens, especially those who are displaced within our state. the bridges through which the occupiers regularly transported equipment and ammunition from the temporarily occupied crimea to the mainland of ukraine. this was reported in the command of the forces of special operations of the armed forces there noted that this route played an important role for the build-up of enemy forces in the direction of the tokmak and mariupol valleys. it was precisely because of the proximity of the bridge to crimea, the need of the occupiers in this object, as well as the large dimensions of the structure that are difficult to repair in the event of destruction, that a decision was made to destro

institutions. the united nations can be simply closed. ladies and gentlemen, i ready to close the un? and now we need decisions from the security council for peace and ukraine. if you do not know how to make this decision, you can do two things. either remove russia as an aggressor, and a source of war, or, if there's an alternative an option, then the next option would be to dissolve yourself altogether. >> and despite mountains of firsthand witnesses and evidence, russia repeatedly denied responsibility for what's happened in bucha. and its ambassador to the un out of this. >> during the time the tunnels under the control of the russian armed forces, not a single civilian suffered from any kind of violence. >> nbc's own richard engel went to bucha, i will warn you, some of the stories and images and his report are disturbing, but they need to be seen. >> ukrainian troops kick the russians out of the kyiv suburb, and once again, are in charge. but for five weeks, russian soldiers occupied bucha, destroyed much of it, and imposed a reign of terror. today, residents for coming out of h

in, in the last weeks, also being someone who is firmly behind international multi national institutions like the united nations. like of course, the european union, like nato. now, if you have a president marine the pen than all of this might change. we just don't know for sure. we know for sure that very much, sir, like donald trump in 2016 c. she sort of has a france 1st program. so if something is in the interests of france, she says she will go for it. but she doesn't necessarily think that those multinational institutions are in the interest of france. so quite the contrary. so we would be looking at a period of instability in very trying times and exactly the opposite of what western leaders are trying to do right now. being together, having a united front against, for example, letting me putins russia. so how concerning would a le pen presidency be for europe? well, for the european union, and that's what most experts say right. it would probably spell the end of the european union as we know it now. she's not as radical, at least officially, like borrow visits, just said as it is in the past in

institutions. the united nations can be simply closed, ladies and gentlemen, are you ready to close the un? do you think that the time of international law is gone? if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. >> so once he has said that bucha, for all its horrors, may not be the worst of it. that other places like the devastated town of borodyanka, 15 miles away, may have suffered even more civilian casualties. new atrocities will be revealed as ukrainian forces and officials are able to start recovery efforts. not just in cities and towns but even on the roads in between them. just outside of kyiv, there's an important highway connecting the capital to the region of -- . in general, this is an important highway but in times of war it's even more so. people are using it to evacuate. it's become a humanitarian corridor. for almost 40 days, russian troops tried to enter kyiv. they couldn't do it on the way to the capital, on the highway between kyiv and the tumor, they destroyed everything they could. buildings were bombed, people were killed, their bodies strewn about on the road

not only in this case, but also assistance from the united nations to try to clean up on buddhist institutions after the presidency. let's not forget that right now. i do have a new president in place. he'll might, i guess. and she has a very big challenge which is to clean up institutions and to prepare the country in a way to what's coming next. among them. the many challenges on buddha faced us today like poverty unemployment, and of course drug trafficking. there's a both. thank you very much. in shanghai, another 4000000 people have been allowed to go outside for the 1st time since the end of march. tron is financial hub has been battling a surgeon code 19 cases for the series of strict locked downs. now, nearly half of the cities, 25000000 people are allowed to leave the homes. but only in neighborhoods considered control or prevention areas. on thursday, shanghai reported more than 800000 new cases and another 8 death and have been food and medicine shortages reported throughout the cities locked down. but most people relying on home deliveries, which are hard to come by. but champagne

where are those guarantees that the united nations need to guarantee? it is obvious the key institutiont work effectively. now the world can see that the russian -- what russian military did in bucha while keep the city under their occupation. but the world has yet to see what they have done in other occupied cities and regions of our country. geography might be different but cruelty is the same. crimes are the same. and accountability must be inevitable. ladies and gentlemen, i would like to remind you of article 1, chapter 1 of the u.n. charter. what is the purpose of our organization? its purpose is to maintain peace and make sure that peace is adhered to. now the u.n. charter violated literally starting with article 1. if so, what is the point of all other articles? today as a result of russia's actions in our country, in ukraine, the most terrible war crimes of all times we see since the end of world war ii and they are being committed. russian troops are deliberately destroying ukrainian cities to ashes with artillery and air strikes and deliberately blocking cities creating mass

what were those guarantees that the united nation needs to guarantee it is obvious that they key institution of their world, which must ensure that the coercion of an aggressive to me is simply cannot work effectively. now the world can see that their russian mil, what russian military did in boucher while keeping the city under their occupation . but the world has yet to see what they have done in other occupied cities and regions of our country. geography. my dear friend of various bud, cruelty is the same. crimes are the same. and accountability must be inevitable. catarina booth, sol, she's a lawyer from ukraine, specializing in international humanitarian and criminal law. miss all, thank you for taking the time to speak to d w. now president zalinski says, what we're seeing in boucher are war crimes genocide. russia says it's all fake. how does international law see it? ah, there is strong evidence to believe that war crimes have been perpetrated in boucher and allegedly in other areas. there's also a possibility to claim the situation of the crimes against humanity, which is a wide spr

national interests, but through the institutions of global governance. which china then through its economic diplomacy has much greater levels of diplomatic support in in individual votes in the united nations. and in securing and the candidatures to take control over international institutions. a machinery which is now able to deliver those changes on the ground from the position on the the imf through to who runs the international civilization civil aviation organization who's now setting the industry's standards for internet governance in the world and the product standards in 5g and the rest. so the reason i use concentric circles from the most important shall i say to the least important is the wrong term but but extensions of the central principle of party control is that that's the prism in my judgment. true which the chinese view reality and prioritize their actions. a couple of thoughts here i'm i'm wondering which where is china looks out to this complicated international regional environment it sees the biggest threats it has xi jinping and putin's relationship that has certainly helped make that important bilateral relationship that long border which used to be such a pr

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united nations security council earlier today. >> translator: if this continues, the countries will be -- rely only on the power of their own arms to ensure their security. and not on international law, not rely on international institutionsf your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. >> anyone who knows even a little about the u.n. doesn't have a ton of faith in it as a nimble body or a particularly effective reactive one, but i listened to that speech a couple times, and i wonder if as ambassador mcfaul is saying, it's something you talked about on this show, if the audience is closer to home to ukraine's european allies, and i wonder how this speech landed there today, katty. >> yeah. i think some of this is for european allies. when i've spoken to ukrainian military officials who obviously are angry that zelenskyy isn't getting what he wants in terms of weaponry, but they're also wary about any security guarantees that the west may give them, because as they say, look in 1994, we gave up our nuclear weapons, and we got a security guarantee from the united states and from the united kingdom and from russia, and look what's happened to us. so, any security guarantee that they get, any body that is set up to pr

united nations was created. it is obvious that the key institution of peace, which should ensure that any aggressors are forced toy cannot work effectively, ladies and gentlemen, are you ready to close the un, do you think that the time of international law has passed, if your answer is no, then you need to act now, you need to immediately force the aggressor to peace. need determination chain of massacres from syria, up to a som of years, afghanistan has reached the end of libya should be stopped and for a long time, but now it's time to transform the system with the core, which is the un to do this, we propose to hold a global conference, we ask you to do this already in mirny kiev to decide how to reform the global security system, how to the inviolability of state borders and the integrity of states, how shall we assert the supremacy of international law? show how you can reformat and work realistically for the sake of peace, or if your current version has no alternative and there is simply no way out, then only the dissolution itself, then the dissolution itself was given. no. it is understandable that a dee

and not on international law not rely on international institutions the united nations can be simplyinternational law is gone? if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. the u.n. charter must be restored immediately the u.n. system must be reformed immediately so that the veto is not the so that the veto is not right to die the aggressor must be brought to peace immediately. determination is needed. the massacre from syria to somalia from afghanistan to yemen and libya, that should have been stopped long time ago to tell you the truth. if tyranny had at least once received such a response to the war we have reached, it would have ceased and the world would have changed for sure. and then perhaps there would not be war in my country against our people, against ukrainian people against our citizens but the world watched and did not want to see either the occupation of crimea or the war against georgia or taking the entire from muldova, how russia was preparing the basis for other conflicts and wars near their borders. how to stop it right away the russian military and thos