united states district court of the northern district of alabama. that order called for the admission of two fairly qualified young alabama residents who happen to have been born negro. >> what do you remember about that incident in 1963? >> we were glad to see president kennedy on. he was very simple. we always thought he was going to lose. he had lost races before that time, particularly in 1959 and 1960, when he had the confrontation with jerry frank johnson. a lot of folks forget the civil rights deal in 1967, that particular civil-rights deal, which came under president eisenhower, allows the president to appoint a commission to come in and investigate discrimination. because blacks in tuskegee, alabama could not get rights to vote, the committee came and did an investigation. george wallace refused to turn over records to them. george frank johnson jr. was the presiding judge. he ordered it turned over to the civil-rights commission so they could complete their investigation. that was one of the early times george wallace misled the voters again in alabama, thinking he could do things he could not do. >> kerry in west virginia, welcome to the program. >> i wou