and so he launched into creating what has become the united religions initiative. a global grassroots initiative in more than 85 countries, 700 grassroots groups working to bring people of all religions together to build peace in their communities and peace in the world. >> and you are both a part of this. what is your role in this? >> well, i have had the extreme honor and joy of my life to be there in 1995 and 1996 from the very beginning. i have been a founding staff person and have been involved with the organizational development. and throughout i think the hallmark is what bill swing said at the very beginning. he said i have a conviction that this must happen, the religions of the world just like the nations of the world try to do with the united nations, but it's the second vocation for the religions of the world to work for peace. we are connected to wise wisdom traditions, to deep values to understandings of how we approach god and the divine but together what incredible power, profound possibility we can unleash. and i think for me having worked here all