a senior associate, a fellow at the international of security studies at the royal united services institute for defense, joins us from london. so do you think washington is planning for a one off for italy atory show of force and hope we will close the match up? are we looking at another front end this already that we've all the time at least so a combination of the 2 and thank you for having me. i don't think this is a one off in the sense that i suspect that there will be a sustain campaign of strikes over the coming days. but i do think that it's a wide meaning and regionalization of the conflict. so you see what's going on in gaza, where these rubies are being accused of genocide in terms of the on boardman campaign . you see how that's then led to tensions in the red sea with the who sees interrupting maritime shipping through the red sea. of course they were involved in piracy elsewhere, but this was specifically about the red sea and the u. s. and the u. k. backed by others decided to carry out strikes and the man you have loved and on the heating up as well. you know, none of this is particular

for your opening statements. james byrne is the founder and director of the open source intelligence and analysis group at the royal united services institute, the world's oldest defense think tank. his team has generated reports based on open source and actionable intelligence on russia's military, supply chains and worked with government organizations including united states department of state to help trace and shutdown these pathways. elina ribakova is the director of international affairs and the international affairs program and vice president for foreign policy at the keeps school of economics. she is also a nonresident senior fellow at the peterson institute for international economics. she has been a co-author on numerous reports out of the ksc institute examining the ability of russia to acquire united states technology despite export control. damien spleeters is the deputy director of operations at conflict armament research,an independent research organization that sends investigators to private conflicts to access weapons and other commodities recovered from the battlefield. he has deployed to conflict zones around the world including iraq, syria, and ukr