fellow in geo politics, international security and middle east studies at the role united services institute of defense and security think tank and in the united states in virginia or indeed. and i haven't saw a non resident senior fellow at the foreign policy research institute. here's what laws. the focus is on regional kurdish affairs. a very warm welcome to you. it is a big deal and date the story and actually highly i'd like to start with you for decades of almond struggle for 2000 killed. and now the prospect to piece before we . busy move into the nitty gritty of all this. could you just contextualize as far as just how much of a turning point in history could this be if the p k k and they do laid down their own? thank you for having me on the program. so i'm glad you said good because of course there are multiple possibilities and potentiality is here. but in the event that this does actually leads to a genuine piece and the, the laying down of ours by the p k. k. then i think the ramifications are quite significant, not simply for turkey, but also in syria, a somewhat in a rock as well. and i