japan security treaty and would protect you under it so i don't think it can be said the united states has maintained neutrality on this on the other hand it's also the case as bruce has suggested that a number of statements did come out of the pentagon out of the state department saying the united states doesn't have an official position on the islands themselves but if we go back historically if we go back to the disposition of these islands and. other territories after world war two we have to pay attention to the crucial crucial role that the united states played in making all of the territories that we now are looking at this was the san francisco treaty of one nine hundred fifty one china was excluded from it and in that treaty what the united states did was to create all across the asia pacific a series of decisions about ownership without at any point spelling out the latitude longitude specifics of where the boundaries ended own burning it's very interesting for we're going to go to a short break and return to history here after a short break we'll continue our discussion on t

a forward united states' position for united states military position on this and other conflicts in the region is the best way to move from the period we're now in mutual shouting of nationalism upsurge of territorial conflicts whether a more fruitful approach is one in which the nations involved in these territorial disputes and that extend from china japan and korea to as he and find ways to sit down out of the out of the glare of of the demonstrators and out of the glare of the media and work out i solutions out of right. and i think of course the people's the people's republic of china and i think the other nations in the region do want a negotiated settlement they don't want a rise of military tensions that's not what they really want net certainly not what the people's republic of china's foreign policy has been signaling i think though that we have to step back and look again to the obama administration and see the u.s. role here and see it clearly when the u.s. said it was pivoting towards asia what they really meant is that they were reaping towards asia because that was th

where's the evidence of the united states involvement in syria i mean obviously the united states would love to see assad fall but we're not entirely happy about what the consequences of that might be and that is a continuing conversation that is taking place in our state department at the moment the idea that the united states knows what it wants to achieve in syria is ridiculous will hurt if you want to see in all fairness you sure you want to hear in all fairness the secretary of state that says assad must go so the united states does have an interest in the fate of syria one way or another ok and what is the united that is it is a city in the middle that it wasn't really something everybody wanted to ease please every time the united states says somebody has to go you know what they do eventually john in boston you want to jump in. yes yes i want to go back to a couple things first of all i want to go back to something herb said he said that the idea of isolationism is nothing new in american politics well it's true i said recently it's new it hasn't made its appearance here i

as the previous speakers mentioned, we paid a visit to the united states last february. governor brown proposed that we set up a working group for the u.s., a state, and china provinces to cooperate. we call this a working group, a joint working group of provinces and the states. at that time, the vice president made a very good, very positive response for the proposal. after the vice-president returned to china, we worked very hard on the proposal and my visit this time is to further the proposal. to make further follow-up of the proposal. yesterday morning, the delegation was in sacramento so we had a very good and successful and fruitful discussion with the lieutenant governor newsome and secretary ross. we believe when the working group is set up, it will tap the cooperative potential between our two sides while in many areas such as infrastructure, new energy, biomedicine, electronics, information industry, agriculture, and high and manufacturing. mayor lee echoed positive statements to our proposal before we came to this seminar. we had a very good meeting with mayo

he came to the united states in 1956. he came to the united states in 1956. the question was, he was born in cuba in 1899, so more than 100 years ago. and the thing about immigration is it doesn't work out for everybody. i mean, we have this american dream, and one of the people it didn't work out for was pedro victor garcia, who came to the united states with seven daughters and a wife, and struggled, could not make a living. and in 1959, after castro took over cuba, he, like a lot of cubans, thought the cube was going to become a better place, and that his options would actually possibly be better in cuba than they were here in the united states. and so he returned. he went back to the island of his birth. and after three years there, and after it had become clear that cuba was moving toward being a marxist lenin communist state, he did something really risky, and i'll read to you about what he did. beat bear with me for just one moment. i thought i had this marked. he bought an airplane ticket is what he did, and at the airport a guy who wasn't immigration

we have a quarrel over the content. >> rose: it's not just israel it is not just the united states. it's russia, it's china, it's some of your friends have all said they do not want iran to have either a nuclear capacity or nuclear weapons. and that's the same argument that the state of israel makes. >> people must gather in other places and solve this problem. whenever the united states government decides to change its behavior toward iran, it will be resolved immediately. and it's interesting that the zionist regime has more than 250,000 a-- atomic warheads, nuclear warheads and they have threatened us repeatedly. >> rose: but they have never used any nuclear weapons. >> and we never say that we were worried. during the 65 years, they have initiated, the zionist regime has initiated five wars. we have not initiated a single war. five wars that were purpose traded by the zionists. which war did we start? >> rose: if there is an attack by the israelis, would you consider that-- would you retaliate against the united states if there is an attack by israel? >> well, by the principles o

army criminal investigation division united states forces in iraq the first division the u.s. . computer in crimes investigative unit the safety i use the second army cyber command. and within that three separate intelligence investigations the department of justice most significantly and its u.s. grand jury in alexandria virginia the federal bureau of investigation which now has according to court testimony early this year produced a file of forty two thousand one hundred and thirty five pages into wiki leaks which less than eight thousand concerned bradley manning the department of state the department of state diplomatic security services in addition we have been investigated by the office of the director general of national intelligence the o. d.n.i. the office of the national counterintelligence executive the central intelligence agency the house oversight committee the national security staff into agent to me agency committee and the p i a the president intelligence the president intelligence advisory board. the department of justice spokesperson jane parade confirmed in ju

it is only natural that the united states relationship with burma should have some impact on united states relations with china. and also that our relations with the united states would impacts to a certain degree on our relations with china. but i think that this could be taken forward in a positive fashion. it does not mean that because burma is in beijing now with the united states -- is in beijing now with the united states that the relationship with china should in any way deteriorate. also it does not mean the united states is engaging in burma. it should not be seen as a hostile step towards china. we can use our renewed situation to strengthen relations between all three countries. i will put it very simply. it would be to our advantage, the united states and china, to establish friendly relations. this would help a great deal. this is what i look forward to being -- this is what i look forward to. burma has had a history of preserving friendship with many different countries following different ideologies. as it was one of the first countries to recognize communist china back in t

what the united states has historically been very aggressive the united states has long been the dominant oil power in the middle east and parts of africa and in parts of latin america so china as it overtakes the united states as the leading oil importer has no choice but to be assertive to be aggressive in places i don't think this is because of a desire to to confront the united states but the sheer necessity of providing energy for china's booming economy michael i have a quote here that i think proves proves your your your statement my guidance is clear about america declared in canberra australia last year. as we plan and budget for the future we will allocate the resources necessary to maintain our strong military presence in this region and quote can. this can this strategy voiced by mr obama will lead to a new two new arms race or don't you think or do you think chinese the chinese will not respond to such words. i don't see how the chinese cannot respond to those words after all we're not talking about the area of the pacific off the american coast we're talking about areas of t

american, including our ambassador, cruelly murdered in libiasm their bodies arriving home in the united states. president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton taking part in a somber ceremony for u.s. ambassador chris stevens and his three colleagues. meanwhile, americans are under attack, protests breaking out in libya, egypt, tunisia, morocco, niyearia, sudan and moving east to yemen, lebanon, israel, jordan, iraq, kuwait, iran qatar, afghanistan, pakistan and the protests continuing further east to india, bangladesh, malaysia, indonesia and even in london, where protesters burn mesh and israeli flags. this is getting worse. today, david petraeus talking about the crisis. >> grad to be here. >> greta: let me ask you about the ambassador stevens in libya. do you know if he was targeted fthey were trying to kill him? or if he was the accidental victim -- obviously a murder? >> two issues here. number 1, the actual protest started as a result of the clric who had the film that -- cleric who had the film that attacked the muslim religion and the protests started in egypt. when it got int

should have found another shaw for around the united states should have created a clone of hosni mubarak the united states should have basically supported any dictatorship that lost the support of its people if it were better for israel and unfortunately you know you see the same sort of anti-democratic for and desire to support israel even in the united states i mean you should play that clip of where the democratic party delegates at their national convention are saying we don't recognize israel's illegal annexation of east jerusalem we don't want that in our democratic party plank and yet they were steamrolled by people within the democratic party who simply passed that resolution anyway and so this is neoconservatives smart yeah it's the same type of mentality that this guy this guy has are merely those that might read behaved as they don't and you taishi fair time ruthie please jump in. they were not steamrolled by other members of the democratic party that fiasco at the democrat it were invention was. born i reckon that you have the island nation it was. a way the israel lo

. >> this is not a case of protests directed at the united states at large or at united states policy but in response to a video that is offensive. >>chris: you do not believe that? >>guest: absolutely. in fact, it is the case. we have had the evolution of the arab spring the last many months. what sparked the violence was the airing on the internet of a hateful and offensive video that has offended many people around the world. our strong view is there is no excuse for violence, it is absolutely reprehensible and never justifyied. but there are those who have reacted with violence and the governments have increasingly responded and protected our facilities and condemned the violence. this outrageous response to what is an offensive video. in question that in the past with "satanic verses," and cartoon of the prophet mohammed, there have been protesters that have sparked. >>chris: critics say this outpouring of outrage against the united states has everything to do with the u.s. policies. that we are disengaging from that part of the world, we pulled out of iraq, we pulled out of afgh

i am here not only to pledge the united states commitment to these principles, but also our support forthe united nations robust efforts to strengthen the rule of law worldwide. >> dozens of people rallied in saudi arabia on monday in two separate protests urging u.s.- backed monarchy to release their jailed relatives. a number protesters were detained after being confined to a desert area and kept without food or water for a day. an anti-islam at referring to muslims as savages has been posted in 10 subway stations around the york city. the ad reads -- it was sponsored by the pro- israeli group american freedom defense initiative, which is also known for opposing the creation of a muslim community center near ground zero. on monday, the council on american islamic relations visit in new york subway station where the ads were being displayed. >> i have mixed feelings about it. it is disgusting, despicable. i laugh to laugh as well. the use of the words savage is classic. just being out here and didn't public about our fate and city, we're trying to unify rather than divide. -- just bein

and the united states society. i lived when i was a young student between 1978 and '85 in the united states. these were student days and these were good days and my family was with me. i want the relationship between the two peoples of the united states and egypt to reach the highest levels of communication and love and respect. respect, mutual respect. this is a message that i want to be clear, very clear, for the egyptian people and they know that and they love this and for the american people. i hope that this visit is the beginning of a relationship of mutual respect and the relationship of not intervening in the affairs of the other party as well. >> rose: when you were a student at southern cal-- (laughs) -- did you ever imagine in a moment that you might become president of egypt? >> i was busy, very busy at the time studying ad i was very much interested in political affairs and the situation in egypt and i always thought about the egyptian people and how i could benefit my nation and my country and i wante

protesters outside the united states embassy.'s, as you can see, it's a very, very tense situation. the violence in libya and in egypt and the president's response quickly becoming a big campaign issue in the race for the white house. with us now the former new york city mayor and one-time republican presidential candidate, rudy giuliani, who's supporting mitt romney. mr. mayor, thanks very much for coming in. >> thank you for having me, wolf. >> let's talk a little bit about the political fallout from this awful situation in egypt and in libya. first of all, listen to what mitt romney said today. >> a terrible course for america to stand in apology for our values, that instead when our grounds are being attacked and being breached, that the first response to the united states must be outrage at the breach of the sovereignty of our nation. an apology for america's values is never the right course. >> president obama later responded to that in an interview with cbs news. listen to what he said. >> there's a broader lesson to be le

we love the people of the united states. you perhaps, sir, know this better than many. we love all people. we wish for paets and friendship to be everywhere. there must be relations beeen e uited states, to allow an exchange of people there are millions of iranian-americans living here. and they are some of the most, amongst one of the most successful immigrant classes to the united states. so the world request no longer be managed through conflict and warfare it can only be managed through friendship and love. and we are quite ready to help. >> rose: mr. president, on behalf of norah o'donnell and me, thank you. finally there is this. the president of the united ates barac obama in a speech at the united nations talked about the same issues. >> it's been less than two years since a vendor in tunesia set himself on fire to protest the oppressive corruption in his country. and sparked with what became known as the arab spring. and since then the world has been captivated by the transformation that has taken place. and the united states has supported the forces of change.

this was unacceptable to the united states. on those four points, i know some of you will disagree with this strongly -- on those four points, this was not a good deal for the and it states. they went ahead with much tougher sanctions. then you have an effort in december, 2010, to revise the diplomatic process. iran came to the meeting saying their condition was that sanctions should be lifted and its right to enrich should be unequivocally recognized. the iranians stopped negotiating because the and it states wanted to have a modified deals what agreement. they said we will not talk to you until you lift all feel sanctions and recognize our right to enrich. war talk starts building. he had his real seeking more and more wanting to know what is going on. it had a meeting in march between president obama and netanyahu. then you have three meetings, in april in istanbul, may in baghdad, june in moscow. there were talking very concretely -- no longer rhetoric, the logger saying capitalism is destroying the world -- they are talking

and they need help from the united states, from europe, from the gulf arab countries. so the yunited states could be doing more. i also think the united states should have taken the security situation in both libya and egypt more seriously and should have urged those governments and worked with them in reforming their police apparatus and getting them back up. there's a very chaotic situation in security apparatuses in libya and egypt after their revolution. >> michelle dunne and general james "spider" marks, retired general and cnn contributor. thank you very much this morning to both of you. >> thank you, carol. >> thanks, carol. at usaa, we believe honor is not exclusive to the military, and commitment is not limited to one's military oath. the same set of values that drive our nation's military are the ones we used to build usaa bank. with our award winning apps that allow you to transfer funds, pay bills or manage your finances anywhere, anytime. so that wherever your duty takes you, usaa bank goes with you. visit us online to learn what makes our bank so different

we will not stop until we prevent terrorist attacks to the united states. >> very good. anyone else have any follow-on? >> i would like to add from the perspective of the state department, which strengthened our visa's procedure, which is the method of reporting individuals for watch listing. at the time of the 12/25/09 incident, the interagency watch listing guidance did not permit for abdul to be watch listed. we have changed that. we act immediately whenever a message arrives with an individual who currently possesses of valid visa. that visa will be revoked unless an intelligence agency asks us not to turn >> i appreciate that. the chair recognizes the ranking member. >> as you know, we will be cutting this down because we have the 9/11 remembrance on the capitol steps. we do not want to be late for that. let me just say, i i think we are on the same page. so we have got to do everything possible to make sure we do not let another group or individual protect the united states as we saw back on 9/11. but at the same time, as we do that, we have got to make sure that we

. >> the united states of alec. a special bill moyers report and how the secretive american adjusted exchange council has helped corporate america propose and even draft legislation for states across the country. >> i was stunned at the notion that politicians and corporate representatives were voting behind closed doors on these changes to the law before they were introduced in state houses across the country. >> as the yen and the states declares wikileaks founder julian assange to be an enemy of the state, we will air is addressed to the united nations from inside the ecuadorean embassy in london where he has been holed up for the past 100 days. >> it is time for the u.s. to cease the persecution of wikileaks, to cease its persecution of our people, and to cease its persecution of our sources. >> we will play julian assange's address and speak to his attorney michael ratner. all of that and more coming up. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. anti-austerity protes

in the united states senate who fought for civil rights. who fought for voting rights. who stood with us. who met with us on the day we marched on washington almost 50 years ago. you had people like one of the great leaders of the united states senate and now these leaders are not -- even the nominee who said one word -- not one word about what they're trying to do. >> eliot: it is fascinating because you're right. i remember even in new york, not even in new york, rockefeller republicans who were more liberal probably than democratic party today. >> you could have rockefeller you had so many other republicans. some had federal judges that were appointed by eisenhower that were much more progressive. >> eliot: right. and yet now the drive to win a misguided drive to win and i think their math is wrong. their legal thinking is clearly wrong. underlying ideology is wrong. they're willing to pass legislation through the states that will prohibit people from voting even though they acknowledge there's not a single shred of evidence of any fraud

for see the overlap is the united states and israel both status quo powers. challenging both left and islamist of movements in that part of the world. military industrial complexes of the two countries are closely intertwined israel has and united states supported certain governments in insurgencies and others and. cooperate in intelligence gathering and covert operations if you go down the list but. you know i think that while certainly the pros will lobby and plays an important role i think the main factor is they perceive fluence of interest and i think the long term it actually hurts this is where i want to. go because it encourages a backlash by extremists ok i think the perception is that israel is an ally ruthie what do you think about and also it's ok i think it's appalling that we should call the alliance between the united states and israel a perceived none of you has mentioned the share democracy shared values of freedom what about the palestinians those are the american society. what about their democratic right i'll tell you about the palestinian

particularly in the united states. just to give you a little bit more context, as you noted, tanisha is the birthplace of the arab spring. the government ought to be more moderate. something we could depend on. in fact, we have seen extremist elements that work there. at the u.s. embassy there, as well as the nearby schools. the latest word we are getting from them is that security forces have done their jobs. over in sudan, the one-time home of osama bin laden. extremist elements thereto. a u.s. embassy targeted. protesters scaling the walls. the latest word from sudan is that the protesters have been expelled. let's go to lebanon now. very special this weekend being visited by the pope. trying to express a feeling of unity between the christian world and the muslim world. two symbols of the united states capitalism targeted more than the lebanese city of tripoli. one attacker was killed, 25 people were injured while police withheld that. in yemen yesterday, we saw the u.s. embassy assaulted by protesters. contacts on

today we have a special bigger picture discussion on islamophobia in the united states in two thousand and ten there were one hundred sixty anti muslim hate crimes in america and between twenty one in two thousand and eleven twenty seven two thousand and eleven the rate of growth of anti muslim hate groups tripled and since july nineteenth of this year the beginning of the muslim holy month of ramadan there have been ten reported anti muslim hate crimes ranging from graffiti on muslim graves to a mosque in joplin missouri being burned to the ground these sober in statistics make one thing very clear islamophobia has unfortunately become an epidemic in the united states from staten island new york to panama city florida ontario california islamophobia has reared its ugly head but who and what are the roots of islamophobia in our country and what can we do as a nation and as americans to root out the ignorance and intolerance and to embrace muslims as americans and embrace islam as another mainstream religion for bring in tonight's panel i want to start with the story of a muslim america

he also said to me our future lies not just in our region but within the united states. y're very clear, the egyptians, that their future lies with good relations, good bilateral relations with the u.s. and you know, earlier this week a high level u.s. delegation state department officials, business leaders, were in egypt to talk about moving forward together. listen to what mitt romney, the republican presidential nominee, said about the arab spring. and you covered it very, very thoroughly. listen to this. >> over the last several years we've stood witness to an arab spring that presents an opportunity for a more peaceful and prosperous region. but it also poses the potential for peril. if the forces of extremism and violence are allowed to control the course of events. we must strive to ensure that the arab spring does not become an arab winter. >> a lot of people see that arab winter. do you see that yet? >> well, listen, wolf, i think what candidate romney has said is what a lot of people say. of course you want to see this arab spring emerge into a democratic realit

of the united states ambassador on 9/11. there is no apparent to it. he was absolutely murdered. lib al-libi -- libyan officials made an arrest. no one will confirm the information. u.s. officials tell fox to be "cautious," about reports of arrests. according to reuters, quoting libya's interior minister four men are in custody and under investigation suspected of helping events at the u.s. consulate. "helping." f.b.i. and others are on the ground in the early stages of the investigation. top priority here? find out whether the strike on the consulate was a planned assault by terrorists rather than a rampageing mob angry other antimuslim video. catherine is in washington, dc, first on the reported arrests. >> this afternoon, the intelligence community is trying to knock down the report. this question was put to the state department. i saw the press reports before i came down. i was not able to confirm them. obviously, it would be a good thing if we are moving forward on this. >> the state department confirmed the investigati

texas is six times as large as the entire united states population. we in austin especially are familiar with the tyranny of the centralized government in austin itself called the state government that often seems determined to deprive the city of austin of autonomy over matters that we hold near and dear. to the extent that federalism does stand for principle of decision making at seven national levels and allowing people to participate in decisions that affect your lives , than any modern constitutional convention weather at the state or national level would have to address this what kinds of protected attali to you want for states and what not. these are all wonderful subjects for convention or for any sort of natiol conversation that we are not having. >> my question is based on a lot of the things you said. i wonder what your take is on who would support the kind of things the you're talking about given the fact that you have kind of a lot of people clamoring for change with the occupy movement and the tea partier. >> very good question of very co

as i mentioned the introduction against the united states because of somebody that obviously the united states condemned what he did but has a great principle of freedom of expression and you would think that the leadership within the muslim world would say no, this is not an act of a government. this is an act of an individual. >> i can't speak for other government bus my government has said that. my government has come out with a strong statement after the cabinet meeting last monday in which it condemned the movie that came out. >> rose: sure. >> but it also condemned the violence. >> rose: and the death of an american ambassador and three others. >> of course, and said that this was totally unacceptable. the mufti of saudi arabia came out with an equal statement about the issue and if you look at the saudi press you will find the whole articles about the inviolability of diplomatic life and representation throughout. but the problem here is that either a double standard or a misrepresentation that what happened in libya, for example against the american ambassador which was a track