first nation to have a self replicating piece of software to attack medical systems was the united states quex. >> that's part of cyberwar. i think of it like pout lord of the rings and they all think they can use it for something good what they think is important for their agenda and none of these players in the global stage want to destroy it but the us did stuck with the piece of malware to destroy the centrifuge that was a new demonstration with just a piece of code you can destroy physical equipment. >> and spread through 30000 computers and targeting with software that's not supposed to be there. >> in some ways it was definitely a mistake and may be had not been identified but the important thing to point out is it didn't start spreading around the world and blowing up like the iranian centrifuge but for the most part it just spread and that was just the opposite and that was a big mistake in those iranian facilities and it got out of hand. >> if they typically targeted ukraine? >> why did russia target ukraine quex. >> it has a very abusive relationship with ukraine it was part of the

provide assurance to our allies united states intends to stay as a partner as we view that structure to benefit not only the united states but other nations of the world quex. >> to address the specifics to the legal authorities and privileges with my meetings of nato allies there is no alarm over the us position they are focused on appropriate sharing. the french president said nato has concerns among european allies to back away from nato. >> i don't want to characterize the comments to make us not an expression? >> he has legitimate concerns to make sure it is relevant and clear in our commitments. >> this piece of legislation is bipartisan to send a strong message the united states whichever party's dominance that is a legal question and nato is ratified the constitution from the treaties and that is silent for someone like that that congress is free to legislate. and this is an ambiguity congress one - - congress can legislate to provide reassurance to our nato allies. this is very important to your own testimony it is my hope but would require some congressional action so that the 70th anniversary what does university and what we can attest to and i

assistance to us in the united states as well and to extradite the co-conspirators to the united states to face justice. allegedly had thought involved in cybercrime for over a decade. a quex resolution cannot always happen but we will doggedly pursue cybercriminals until we can bring them to justice today's announcement should make clear those engaged in cybercrime we will identify you and unmask you and prosecute no matter how much effort it requires or how long it might take you will never have safe haven from the efforts of united states law enforcement in international partners to bring you to justice thank you to the united states attorney's office from pennsylvania and the district of nebraska the fbi in state department of the crime agency all of which are represented behind me of those institutions. >> thank you brian good morning. we have announced the indictment of western district of pennsylvania against two of the most prolific cybercriminals in the world they have spent the last decade infecting computers worldwide with malware. companies insist that western district of pennsylvania have been defrauded by the cybercriminals the other also known as aqua is the

who are the ones who keep things working quex and and dealing with the united states they were cut off so what are you not know that necessarily familiar with? and to know what it is. where before they worked on retirees as a key focal point because they are not going through another security background check or reporting their finances or go through serious scrutiny. this is the way they could get that same understanding. it is a slow process. in taiwan they have 70 years to do it. whereas dealing with united states asset when you take the compromises of opm and the company that holds the largest federal insurance a breach is a much different data set of people and act have it on - - activities and you can map those employees of course they don't hold the personal data inside opm now you have to match that against what is available you can identify who they are and where they were. once you have that mapping it's a lot easier to go out and start chasing. >> next a question not only about chinese intelligence operations but this is the attention we seem to have with an open society but

quex. >> possibly. >> you are the undersecretary. how was it something as critical as russia through the united states national security interest it's only putin's interest to push a narrative quex. >> that president putin made this point. >> and then even confiscates but it is curious that ukrainian interference is not in a position of senior diplomats like yourself and with the presidents talking point. >> national security and the members of congress are repeating the lies quex. >> turning to sanctions does it ministration have third authority to impose sanctions against the russia pipeline quex. >> i don't know if we have that exact authority. >> let me offer to you the answer is yes the administration has the authority to impose sanctions with other things the russian pipelines and why have they not impose sanctions the president talks tough about a pipeline but the administration hasn't lifted a finger to prevent the destruction the committee passed legislation to require sanction likely included in the nda a bit every day that ticks by is another one and you could act today do you have any idea why you have not acted quex. >>