. >> hos wel if look at cyberace the united states rinow, how wouldou debe surityverall? much as we would deribe, maybe, crime or break-ins in a neighborhood? >> guest: well in the spirit of the explanatory mission we have, you can't really talk about cyberspace in the united states. a computer user in washington, d.c. or in wichita or san francisco is effectively working shoulder to shoulder with a computer user in beijing or in moscow. there's literally no seconds of difference in space and time in cyberspace. so i thought i'd point that out. as for the security, the reality is that, um, it's almost remarkable how vulnerabl comp sysms are. and cyberspace, um, is not what most people think it is. most people now equate cyberspace with the bear net. -- internet. but if they want to think about what cyberspace is, it's the gps system on the new cars, it's the iphone and the droids, it's jet fighters and jet planes. anything that is driven by computers, excuse me, by computer code and is linked to networks, um, can be a part of cyberspace. and the vulnerabilities are, um, a