well 2 things firstly the superpowers that were responsible for the partition resolution united states soviet union are mainly interest in the creation of a jewish state that partition plan calls for americas there's throw in there yes i did know from the book that stalin thought said that the jewish you know socialists were all going to align with moscow and then when he woke up and realized they weren't here years later through it a little too late exactly. the stalin was obsessed with the british and saw the arab states as aligned with britain is obsessed with the british since the russian civil war well it was another story good reasons that's another story they sent troops in iraq troops they sent money they sent they financed the white armies and so on and so. so he was he was obsessed with the british as as churchill was obsessed with bolshevism right i mean the 2 of them were in that respect what what happens is that the 2 superpowers that had basically rammed the partition resolution through the general assembly cared only for the creation of a jewish state why. that jewish when the arab s

later well and it required massive cooperation between world health organization the united states the soviet union and many other countries to successfully eradicate that disease and that was cooperation that you're talking about during what the cold war i mean i mean what's what's the difference between how things were done back then and now because when not in a cold war anymore. they were willing to get together to eradicate smallpox which i think shows how terrified human societies were of that disease we know what we need to do now we know what will be required to contain coded we just have to figure out how we can get the cooperation and the consensus about the best way to proceed and it i find it pretty hard to get some sort of consensus on a societal basis i mean just amongst my friends of what makes well what about how society has reacted throughout the ages what is telling they societies have been dealing with can demick for as long as we have lived in cities and we have learned a lot from that history for instance we have learned that many epidemics can be controlled through isolation a

think the soviets got there, and what do you think they are up to, that conditioned the american response. potsdam, most people go into that conference believing the united states and soviet union can have a constructive relationship in the postwar period. there is a photograph i love to show when i talk about potsdam. it is molotov, the soviet foreign minister, and the new american secretary of state, arm in arm and smiling. the notion is, we have beaten the germans and are not yet enemies. that will happen after potsdam, that will develop after the conference but it is not the , mood at the conference itself. jason: it is worth pointing out, as we are wrapping up and about to take questions, i think the western allies, whether they were aware of it or not, did not want to see it. it is interesting that stalin shared much of their suspicion about revolution, that he was himself very wary about workers and peasants moving out of the resistance, the fascist powers against imperial japan. he is very wary of them. he wants to keep a tight lid on movements in his own sphere of influence. it is interesting that one of the things they share, even though it is not shared overtly, is a

soviets got there and what you think they are up to, conditions to american response. in potsdam most people go into that conference thinking and believing that the united states and soviet union can have a constructive relationship in the post war period. there is a photo i love to show when i talk about potsdam. the soviet foreign minister and the new american secretary of state burns, they are arm in arm. the notion here, is we have beaten the germans. we are not yet enemies. that happened after potsdam. it all starts to develop after the conference. it is not the mood at the conference itself. >> as we are wrapping up, will take questions. the western allies, what whether they were aware of it or not, it is interesting that stalin shared much of their suspicion about revolution. that he was himself very wary about workers and peasant movements emerging out of the resistance against the fascist powers against imperial japan, thinking about china, southeast asia. he's wary of them to. he wants to keep a tight lid on movements in his own sphere of influence. it is interesting that one of the things they share even though it is not something they share overtly, is a wariness a

>> it is true that we have built up a systematic way of engaging between the united states and soviet union, now the united states and russia that has provided some real advantages. we have a risk reduction center and a hotline, ways to really reduce the risk of inadd vertenned nuclear exchange and we need to get that dynamic going with the chinese as well. if they really do wanted to be treated as a great power, which i think they do, then they're going to need to be prepared to show up, behave like a great power, negotiate with the united states and rust and agree to the verification and transparency measures that we need, given we know that china is engaged in a secretive and unconstrained nuclear weapons buildup. >> reporter: how can yoget that done in the next six to seven months before new start expires? at what point is some bert than non-none arms control. >> we want to restore it with the russians and extend it to include the chinese. this is something that the russians themselves have recognized in the past. my counterpart, the deputy foreign minister himself, right after new star

united states and russian and soviet communists between 1918 and 1920. it's in part the after echo of that. and that was certainly awe view in the soviet union. and they woman standing be on the basis of what the united states had done in their eyes in the late 19 teens and that's because that was when american soldiers were fighting the communists. let's start at looking at that view of the cold war. the cold war starts then and it characterizes in many the 20s and 30s. the second world war is a traumatic interlude and interlude that's formative for american history. and the conflict tension and confrontation between the soviet union and the united states. and those that fought germany regarded the war -- i use the term because that's what they called it and b because they were very much not it. they regarded this as a continuation of world war i. they knew they had been encouraged by german intelligence. they had sent him to russia in 1917. they had given him passage out of switzerland. in the spring of 1918 and as it were the background in 1918. and for people that are strategic thinkers and of course you must bear in mind that eisenhow eis

united states in the 1960 s. so all of these treaties initially the united states. because of that the united states or itself has been rivalry with the soviet union or even wanted to build confidence when the soviet union had those confidence building measures to materially turn vines the basis for ending the cold war that was the. indispensable foundation that foundation is being destroyed and their full weight come moving back into a situation where international tensions already we've already talked about the possibility of when you cope with china in the 1st segment of all progress this is very dangerous and is most alarming thing to me of all is all of this is happening and western public seems to be completely oblivious to it so well and western legacy media writing on discussing will do it is not smart and because i mean i know they have exactly. these treaties were celebrates it and now that they scratched and it's as if nobody cares this is easy credit be dangerous it is incredibly dangerous they think it is more he needs to be dangerous in my opinion than the climate change issues that we hear so much about. these this weight down of co

soviets got there and what you think they are up to condition to the american response. most people go into that conference still believing that the united states and soviet union can have a constructive relationship in the post-war period. there's a photograph i love to show when i talk about potsdam. the notion is we have beaten the germans. we're not yet enemies. >> we're wrapping up and about to take questions. i think the western allies, whether they were aware of it or not, in many cases didn't want to see it. it's interesting that stalin shared much of their vision about revolution. he was weary about pes sanasant. he wants to keep a tight lid on movement in his own sphere of influence. they share a real war riness about anything too radical coming from below. >> this is the argument for seeing stalin. it's another czar. we're just not sure what toopd with the soviets. >> i want to thank you for a great conversation. we covered a lot of ground in 45 or so minutes. we should open things up. we had one question here. i'm going to jump in and take us through a few of these. we have from dan in michigan, can you help me understand why the u.s. allowed berlin to be di

soviet union, which is not surprising. i mean, it's the soviet union that had intercontinental ballistic missiles pointing at the united states. it would have been rather bothering if he had regarded the principal challenge to the united states as egypt, which it clearly was not. the other thing that's worth bearing in mind about the cold war is eisenhower's domestic policies were also to do with the cold war. there is a canard in america that civil rights was an achievement essentially of the '60s, and that's because that's how it suits the american public myth and the american generations that went through that and et cetera, et cetera. actually, the real achievements of civil rights are in the '40s and '50s. truman's desegregation of the military, which was absolutely crucial, but also the use by eisenhower showing at the end of the day that he was willing to send down troops to the south and to federalize the national guard there, sending the airborne division, you know, down to little rock was a really decisive move. and the reason he did that -- i mean, he actually -- you know, he was not -- he wasn't a racist particula

there is no ideological difference between natural and united states they operate in the same are a dime of this global capitalism unlike soviet union and united states of 40 or 50 years ago which had maybe wrong but completely different. perceptions or way of life how to live how to build society and that's why i believe that this confrontation my turn even more dangerous i mean that you in china and united states because to certain extent ideological battle made the premiss confrontation eliminate more structure and that forced parts to allow rates on rules old behavior also the good now and i'm so sorry to remember my. my stylus in the soviet union and when we were forced to learn marxism leninism but some of those cases are still. relevant so the millennial space about imperialism as a high stage of capitalism when he described the reasons why 1st world war erupted i think it's very it's very big a risk that confrontation between the united states and china will lead us to something play that free world war one atmosphere this is not about ideology that was a dog breed. i mean this. mentioned a couple of words and let me. bring

united states and the u.k. the view would. rush out of the soviet union reading that if you would well now the united states and the u.k. are viewing russia in china very night they don't want aid from china from china makes them angry you know it's you know they're talking about propaganda olympic games let it protect themselves keep going to happen to think maybe i could just be happy till i had get here have got sawyer ok look you get from starting to get a move later churches to get together not what contemporary politicians actually confront this request we're facing now. if they want this matter of political choice you compare a man and see what what you need. now you get made the difference kevin is the difference between then and now is it then you had people that had courage you had people that had some point and you know it even stalin i would say ok i mean if you look at sort of the soviet ideology dealing with the bush wild west and you know because it the world was absolutely shots when the the announcement of the nazi so be a great that was

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united states is the last board of call but of course the. alliance in this very week the alliance of britain the united states and the former soviet union crushed. the end of the 2nd world war bouts not a small thing by any means so the result. a good deal of history and so i think people in britain are. above some looking forward to a new future will we grew closer to the. hague george i mean i have to stop you right there i bet i want to switch over to you because george going to try to fix your connection and try to come back to you for more on this so ben there is one major sticking point that the brits our star are really bothered by and it is that we have a very sad state of american food standards here in the u.s. so i don't want to mince any words american food is full of hormones and additives and chemicals do you think we will see a change in this if the u.s. does broker a different deal with the u.k. . well according to the u.k. we will definitely have to see a change because they're saying they will not compromise that's the word they're using they will not compromise environmental standards or food safety standards so the question

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military characteristics it seems to have so many echoes of the last cold war between the united states and the soviet union there is one fundamental difference between then and now in the 20th century cold war the american and russian economies have virtually no ties with each other in the 21st century between the u.s. and china that is very different they do a lot of business together and the characterization of given the u.s. 'd china relationship in the future of the post curve in order is called war 1.5 and the reason i choose that term is because 'd the one differential between. the previous cold war with the soviet union and the current the stranger in the people's republic of china is a degree of a good economic good of connectedness between china and the us. that interconnectedness lettering i phones openness any kinds of goods and services has been a key economic story of the past 2 decades decoupling as the expression goes would involve massive disruption on both sides 70000 u.s. army has stopped in china and general in some 100 the last 100 going to us dan rather europe china for example sells m

it kicked off a huge arms race between the united states and the soviet union.ng us now is mark champion. the parallels are there in terms of the impact and the site -- that science could have in terms of geopolitics. what do you think the development will look like in a much more interconnected world? can we find ourselves in that similar situation, or does one country having a vaccine kind of effect another country? think the thing that is similar in the thing to focus on is the degree of competition. hadolitics has return, we vaccine issues around h1n1, we smallpoxsmall parks -- during the cold war, and hiv-aids after, and since the cold war we have not had geopolitics around one of these issues. question of what would other countries do was not so important. situation thata is more reminiscence of that cold war competition. the point is that when geopolitics dominates, it dominates everything. this kindwho are in of competition will get stuck into that is of importance, and certainly, dealing with the -- andirus in the work the workforce is at that level. th

united states for the last time i'd. remember a country that forced other countries to trade with the soviet union and now the united states is saying who you can trade with who you can be friends with here is go back to angry here a lot of people are saying that it becomes bling is inevitable and a pain to our discussion with and we've all agreed that a sudden decoupling would be disastrous for everybody for the global economy it's just mindlessly stupid to think well in the longer term you'll have to internet you'll have to our operating systems and essentially don't be asking enjoying one of the other ok i do see that that's a possibility in the mid-term and long term but how we get there will be very messy to say the least keep going on a. first before i guess we are making him sleep. talking about just the. u.k. in terms of. giving. now linkage is impossible. but on the other hand if you are not going to be able to solve. it is if you do not have demand than there's no point in. what we are picturing meaning by this looming out of the us and the quest for this for sure for sure. is. the u.s. economy and the. western e

obviously it's a cold war agreement right it was designed essentially to protect the united states and russia or the soviet union at the time for mutual destruction and so now we see that yes he's working on these other deals but as you said where is the deal with pakistan where is the deal with india you know where is the deal with israel and some of these other countries that have nuclear weapons and so there's big questions about that does is it too russian centric probably so but the idea that we're even having these talks about nuclear arms right now it's a little remarkable that we seem to continue to find ourselves in these same cycles over and over again and we don't seem to ever advance from that we've been stuck in the cycle now for what 80 years yeah it's kind of get stale well leave it right there my prime bents one thank you so much for that update. you know if things. are while the majority of the u.s. economy suffers one industry is actually well may that's weapons american arms manufacturers are working full steam ahead and president trump is making sure that the coronavirus doesn't get in its wa

united states would take it upon itself to start dismantling some of its nuclear weapons stockpile. >> we now have an unparalleled opportunity to change the nuclear posture of both the united states and the soviet union. if we and the soviet leaders take the right steps, some on our own, some on their own, some together, we can traumatically shrink the arsenal of the world's nuclear weapons. we can more effectively discourage the spread of nuclear weapons. we can rely more on defensive measures in our strategic relationship. we can enhance stability and actually reduce the risk of nuclear war. now is the time to seize this opportunity. >> the soviet union was sort of coming to an end when president bush gives this speech. it still exists but then a few month later the soviet union falls. once the cold war is ultimately over, we start to shift to dismantlement. so pantex still has its vital function of dismantling our nuclear weapons stockpile and figuring out how to dispose of certain materials within a nuclear weapon. furthermore, today, we're focused on life extension programs so that we ensure that we have a safe, reliable stockpile for the future, for the united states to be credible nuclear dete