this intemperate in the united states and turkey closer together? >> i wouldn't say that. the incident did help us change the nature of the relationship between the united states and turkey. i think clearly secretary pompeo is on its way to meet with senior turkish officials to discuss this issue, probably other issues as well. so ii would say that this is an issue where the u.s. and particularly americanan investigators, turkish investigators can work together to try to understand what happened. areas for cooperation here. in terms of the overalla relationship i wouldn't say would have an effect. >> were you surprised about the early andnd very quick trip of information about the turkish investigation into what happened with jamal khashoggi? >> by scott and vantage in terms of getting they story out and probably holding the saudi's feet to the fire. >> michael was up next in eatonville, new jersey. democrat, good morning. >> good morning. it seems obvious to me that the ends justify the means. i'd just understand about the middle east and how we nee

but, yes, there are issues each wing the united states and turkey that also need to be developed. host: is this incident bringing the united states and turkey together? guest: i wouldn't say the incident itself has changed the relationship between turkey and the united states. i think that, clearly, secretary pompeii are -- secretary pompeo is on his way to meet with circus officials to discuss this issue and others as well. i would say this is an issue where the u.s., particularly american investigators, turkish investigators, can work together to try to understand a little bit about what happened. there are areas for cooperation here. but in terms of the overall relationship, i would not say it would have an effect. host: you have worked in the region a long time. were you surprised about the early and quick drip of information about the turkish investigation into what happened with jamal khashoggi? guest: pretty clearly, the turks saw an advantage in terms of getting the story out. and probably holding the saudi'' feet to the fire. host: michael is next in eatonville, new jersey

would be him all this as his administration bans twenty one's suspects from entering the united states turkey's president has repeated calls to hold these killers to account. saying there's strong evidence the killing was premeditated and those responsible will not escape justice. yanina. this incident is being dealt with in a manner which befits the turkish state you do not want anyone to be implicated and we've strive to ensure that evidence is being brought to light we did not allow propaganda to disrupt the episodes our security and intelligence forces have findings which have all been confirmed and yesterday in our group party conference i share this but it is also true that some people are disturbed by this sharing the sensitivity and the determination and transparency which turkey has shown has been appreciated by the whole world and not just the fiance of the victim from the person who gave the order to the person who executed the order we are determined not to let anyone escape justice and insert the arabia itself the crown prince is due to give his first speech in the next few hours s

until now so in this regard i don't i wouldn't i don't expect many trouble in the united states given evidences and turkey has all interest to provide the united states with evidences because it wants to get us on the what as well to or in this crisis yes. she was not a u.s. citizen but he was a u.s. resident as far as i know according to u.s. law he can be regarded as a u.s. person is the other is a u.s. citizen he was writing for a washington post so therefore like turkey has all the interest as i said like to get the u.s. on board in this matter let's bring in attorney had been a long time here you're an international lawyer you clearly understand the way this all works this is an almost a unique case this was a murder that took place in saudi sovereign territory the consulate in istanbul yet the president of turkey says he wants those people tried in istanbul is there precedent for this what's the what what shape does any trial in turkey take look like and can it happen indeed. well it raises number of questions. first of all the question of whether a concert of mission has the same status as a full d

that also need to be developed. >> host: is this incident bringing the united states and turkey closer together? >> guest: i wouldn't say the incident has changed the nature of the relationship between the united states and turkey. secretary pompeo is on his way to meet with senior turkish officials to discuss this issue and probably other issues as well. though i would say that this is an tuissue where the us and particularly american investigators can work together to try to understand a little bit about what happened so there's areas for corroboration here but in terms of the overall relationship, i wouldn't say it would have an effect. >> host: you worked in the region for a long time. were you surprised about the quick drip of information about the turkish investigation into what happened with jamal es khashoggi? >> guest: the turks saw an advantage in terms of getting the story out . and you know, probably holding the saudi's feet to the fire. >> host: michael is up next in eatonville new jersey, a democrat. >> caller: it seems obvious to me that ourgovernment has taken a

until now so in this regard i don't i wouldn't i don't expect many trouble in the united states given evidences and turkey has all interest to provide the united states with evidences because it wants to get us on to what as well true or in this crisis yes. she was not a u.s. citizen but he was a u.s. resident as far as i know according to u.s. law he can be regarded as a u.s. person is the other is a u.s. citizen he was writing for a washington post so therefore like turkey has all the interest as i said like to get the u.s. on board in this matter there but really i'm told he had been here a long time here you're an international lawyer you clearly understand the way this all works this is an almost a unique case this was a murder that took place in saudi sovereign territory the consulate in istanbul yet the president of turkey says he wants those people tried in istanbul is there precedent for this what's the what what shape does any trial in turkey take look like and can it happen indeed. well it raises number of questions. first of all the question of whether a concert of mission has the same status

to really have a great relationship with turkey i hope that happens ok earlier president trump tweeted that there'd be no form of concession by the united states there was no deal made with turkey for the release and return of pastor andrew branson i don't make deals for hostages he said there was however great appreciation on behalf of the united states which will lead to good perhaps great relations between the united states and turkey. and in a burst of twitter diplomacy the turkish president made clear the release was not a response to u.s. pressure. the turkish judiciary reached its decision independently says president at a one i hope that the united states and turkey will continue their cooperation as the allies that they are and fight against terrorist groups. no indication yet as to when or whether the sanctions imposed by the u.s. in retaliation for the pastor's detention will be lifted but the meeting ended in a prayer for president trying to go see you will be hoping for governess support among evangelical christians in the moving the term elections mike hanna al-jazeera washington. bill schneider is a us political analyst and publ

>> turkey is looking for response from the united states. turkeyt happened, unfortunately, and the united states needs to step up and help turkey. turkey does not want to be an argument with saudi's, that is why the u.s. should step up. saudi investigation team came to turkey and did a joint investigation team to look for , unfortunately, but it seems that turkey is a long. shery: this also comes at a time when american pastor andrew brunson was freed. that was the main point of friction between the u.s. and turkey. now you have the saudi's and the turks having this huge dispute. saudis have been very close to the u.s. ween both situations, could see a realignment of the different dynamics between the three countries? ali: i think they are separate issues. i do not think there should be a link between the saudi case and pastor brunson -- kevin: but they are linked. ali: they need to have an open dialogue to saudi's issues. i am glad that pastor brunson is on a plane coming back home, so it is a good news for reducing the tension, but for the saudi

to really have a great relationship with turkey i hope that it happens ok earlier president trump tweeted that there'd be no formal concession by the united states there was no deal made with turkey for the release and return of pastor andrew branson i don't make deals for hostages he said there was however great appreciation on behalf of the united states which will lead to good perhaps great relations between the united states and turkey. and in a burst of twitter diplomacy the turkish president made clear the release was not a response to u.s. pressure. the turkish judiciary reached its decision independently says president at a one i hope that the united states and turkey will continue their cooperation as the allies that they are and fight against terrorist groups. no indication yet as to when or whether the sanctions imposed by the u.s. in retaliation for the pastor's detention will be lifted but the meeting ended in a prayer for president trump food go sit you will be hoping for governess support among evangelical christians in the moving the term elections mike hanna al-jazeera washington. well as a us political analyst and public policy

pastor andrew bronson is on his way to the united states after turkey freed him from house arrest his release from moves a major cause of friction between the u.s. and turkey but u.s. president donald trump denies that there was any secret deal to secure his freedom . don't forget you can always get news on the go just download our app from google play or from the apple store that will give you access to all the latest news from around the world as well as push notifications for any breaking news you can also use that app to send us your photos and or videos. you're watching the news from berlin stay tuned there's more at the top of the hour and for the latest updates you can check out our web site that's t w dot com or follow us on twitter at d w news thanks want. to. go to. a new sounds to me to believe she didn't see the one some say the team sounds like a simple change can sound today's kind of list so i thought it should. people.

the united states imposed an asset freeze on turkey's interior and justice mistemiste. -- ministers. president trump raised exports on steel and aluminum and the united states halted plans to sell the f/35 jet to turkey as well. so what is expected a eed -- al these are expectations that have been dashed in the past -- is that turkey will lift the travel ban that mr. brunson is under and he will be able to go to the airport and fly out of the country. that doesn't necessarily mean he will be found innocent, but he will be for all intents and purposes a free man. christine. >> keep us posted. ben wedeman. thank you. >>> 18 minutes past the hour. another dow drop. plunging more than 1,300 points in the last two days. we will explain the sudden selloff next. x1 is here to help. you can do things like change your settings, learn tips and tricks, troubleshoot, and even manage your account. finding your xfinity username or wifi password, restarting your equipment, or paying your bill is easier than ever with x1. x1 help. another reason to love x1. say "teach me more" into your voice remote

certainly, it does appear that we're past the worst when it comes to the crisis between turkey and the united statesnd because of this crisis with saudi arabia, turkey is very eager to line up its friends. keeping in mind its relationship with the other major powers in the middle east, egypt and saudi arabia, for instance, isn't very good, and it would be very useful for turkey to have a friend in the white house. >> all right. ben wedeman, thank you so much. we'll be right back after this. ♪ ♪ i don't care where we go ♪ and i don't care what we do ♪ just take me with you there are roadside attractions. and then there's our world-famous on-road attraction. the 2019 glc. visit your local mercedes-benz dealer for exclusive offers. chloe. ♪ she's so cute. ♪ the most loved iphone meets the most loved in wireless. right now, save $300 on iphone xs at t-mobile. when it comes to making bones stronger, are you headed in the right direction? we are. we have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture. so with our doctors we chose prolia®. to help make our bones stronger. only prolia® helps stren

of what happened inside that consulate, and for their own intelligence capabilities, the united states and turkeyre that. it's interesting because it goes back to the politics that the u.s. and turkey's relationship has been strained in the last couple of months because the president has been tweeting about the turks. they've been very upset about the detention of an american pastor. the relationship between the u.s. and turkey is strained. that might mitigate a little bit of the intelligence sharing cooperation. you wouldn't be hearing from american senators so defin tivoli. you had chris murphy on morning joe when he was asked, does he have any reason to believe jamal is still alive, he said no. he has gotten to the point where he is convinced he is no longer alive. where they got that from their saudi, turkish or other allies, that is the central question, when that information will be made public. >> and to ayman's point about turkey's relationship with the united states, turkey has its own relationship with its own immediate and international media as well. they have jailed several reporters

the growth of the more islamic state in turkey's been a source of discontent in the united states for many years, you know? the president of turkey has undermined the secular state that ataturk founded, and that's not in the united states eye interests, for sure -- united states' interests, for sure. on the positive side them doing this, and on the negative side what may have happened with saudi arabia. so -- leland: what does this say about president trump's foreign policy? he really cozied up to the saudis. it was the first place that he went on a foreign trip after his election, talked about them, really embraced the new crown prince over there, and at the same time really put the thumb screws on the turks. now you've got the turks releasing the pastor that the united states wants s and you've got the saudis allegedly, almost certainly knocking off a journalist with close ties to the united states. >> well, hopefully now with a little more experience of pompeo and certainly ambassador bolton at the helm helping the president, we'll have a little more careful foreign policy. like he

when a team arrived in turkey it seems like there is a negotiation between united states turkey and saudi arabia how to conduct the process but everything depends on what our don is going to say in the building right behind me in half an hour ok well we will certainly be crossing live to the speech that is for the moment there is that i'm thanks very much of course i have an answer jamal he's in istanbul so some are saying the cia chief has arrived in. and also the tax investigation we mustn't forget is still ongoing. it is indeed nor is it sanction investigation of the independent the attorney general's office and shortly after the disappearance of jamal khashoggi that's been the main source of information over the possible three weeks every couple of days or whenever that strikes feel necessary they've been releasing information leaking information and details as to what's happened to john q what's began with this idea of somebody who had gone into the consulates of pick up paperwork and nobody knowing where the run slowly a picture started being painted through these leaks and they wer

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what impact will this have going forward with united states/turkey relations you just talked about, howhey are and the economy in turkey has suffered quite a bit. how will things possibly improve going forward? >> we'll have to see. there certainly does seem to be an indication as john pointed out. it looked like there had been a deal. then it fell apart. president trump and president erdogan were both in new york for the u.n. general assembly. there may have been some negotiations that went on there. clearly turkey wanted to move back from the confrontation that they had with the u.s. over this and other issues. we'll have to see where it goes. it is interesting that the white house flatly denies that they have removed the sanctions, the economic sanctions against turkey. they may not announce it now. it may happen later. but clearly president erdogan, a tough guy and has faced off and not always followed u.s. foreign policy teams to want to move back from the brink in terms of relations with the u.s. that's a good thing. the furthest -- erdogan pursued relations with iran and russia.

there was, however, great appreciation on behalf of the united states which will lead to good, perhaps great relations between the united states and turkeyke, elise, of the thought process this could change things between the united states and turkey? >> i mean of course the president makes deals for hostages, he made deals for a lot of things. i think this administration to its credit has been good about putting a premium on getting u.s. americans in detention back home. that being said i think the president really put the squeeze on president erdogan. the turks were looking for the u.s. to extradite that cleric they thought was responsible for the attempted coup. the u.s. didn't do that. and then the turks were looking for other things. president trump really put the squeeze, put double tariffs on steel and aluminum on turkey, was ready to see the turkish economy fall as a result, and tension spiked. i think this leaves room for both leaders, erdogan and trump, to claim success and start to work together on some of the critical issues in the region. and i think this story about jamal, how the turks handle the investigation and how the

people on the plane in riyadh as he speaks they will be returning to the united states also coming back from the united states from turkey will be the director of the cia jeanne a hospital now it's expected that they will get together they will brief president trump he says in the next twenty four hours and after that more statements may be forthcoming from the president on exactly what is going to happen next and who is going to be held accountable so. my. pay as a secretary of state pardon me mike also referenced possible additional punitive measures such as what. well it's important to note that the secretary of state was talking about sanctions against individuals in terms of the global make me act which provides full accountability for human rights violations be it by individuals or indeed states now some of these measures he's already mentioned the withdrawal of these has but other measures can be taken economic sanctions against the individual the position of freezing on their bank accounts a number of various measures can be done and have been done in the past against individuals cited under the mechanisms yet ho

balance its own future turkey has to balance its relationship with other countries including the united states turkey has to balance its own trajectory to trying to make a claim of more prominence in the arab and muslim world not the article in the in the muslim world of plenty so i think they are on a very very. thin tightrope and and they're it's so many considerations going on and i think you know in the beginning they have at this information they still have this information how they're going to use it whether they have more information how they're going to use that remains to be seen can really appreciate you joining us for the last few hours of this story has had as its to palatal call on you again thank you you thank. ok we'll take a quick break now we'll be back in a few moments with more in our special coverage in this news hour the death of saudi journalist mark churchy. from briskness i'm sure it's. to the one trying to it's of southeast asia. hello the rain is building over the southeastern parts of china at the moment predominantly there's a lot of dry weather to be found a good deal of

lot of hope invested in this man and you know we have united states we have one attitude towards the press saudi arabia does not have a free press turkey does not i don't believe have a free press. and so for starters it would be in the united states' interest to encourage a free press everywhere but beyond that. if it is true agents of the saudi government travelled into turkey and murdered a journalist on foreign soil that's very serious indeed and not something that we would i would hope that trump would really discuss i think that would be that would should lead to a chilling in relations with saudi arabia if that's true but again we don't know on whose behalf these people may have been sent we don't know what actually happened to the journalist yet and we should be very sure of our ground now charles a number of u.s. senators are actually calling for a rethink of america's quote political and military blank check for riyadh i mean there's a lot of people who question the relations there with saudi arabia do you think there's any chance of america kind of reorganizing its foreign policy to be more against saudi arabia. or at least

turkey through both of these. how does that fit into what is going on with this? >> even though there's been a strained relationship between united states and turkey, taken turkey farther away from a democracy. they are a strong ally, strong nato ally that we work with. if it's of great concern because it starts this pattern that we are seeing where we don't have to worry just about their human rights domestically but also what they're willing to do inside another sovereign nation. but in this instance, the united states and turkey's intelligence committees are very integrated working together not only in nato but to fight terrorists. this is going to be an issue not only what happened in the consulate went to the journalists, but also the issue of who was responsible and how do we hold them responsible and is going to be opportunities for them to work together. >> melissa: of the reasons you are explaining to me in the break is the idea that even though turkey doesn't have the best record on human rights right now but they are not going to -- they're going to have a big problem with anybody doing anything on their soil. it's the idea o

and so you so you have you know you've you've kind of attacked journalism the united states and turkey all at the same time so to what degree do you think then would if it's confirmed would the united states intervene because we know that the united states donald trump in particular has a very cozy relationship with saudi arabia at the moment. so there are two different. you know there are multiple factions within the united states that matter it is possible that for somebody like jared cushion or that this is a that this is a bridge too far you know you've already seen people like thomas friedman who are one of the. biggest promoters of in sound and in in washington in new york you know calling on him calling on him to release his friend now that you know if it's confirmed that he's been assassinated you that relationship is finished and so as that relationship was severed the relationship with your questioner is frayed and if he doesn't have that then he loses a lot of his ties to donald trump now the structural relationship between trump and the saudis is still there whatever financ

united states can do something as a third force. we have alliance with the saudi and emirates and alliance with turkey and qat r, maybe -- qatar and maybeited states can held them in the middle and come to an investigation. eric: what can we do? could there be sanctions, they would go buy russian or chinese items? sanction specific teem in the saudi regime, whether crown prince or not, kick diplomats, have national security council resolution against it or is all this too early? >> look, it is too early, that's right, this is chapter 2, once chapter 1 is established, the direct responsibility of people in the higher level in saudi kingdom or maybe a third rogue party, who knows, we are still early, then we can talk about what washington would do. some of the critics because of the tension between qatar and saudi arabia already talk about what u.s. would do as punishment. but as the president has said, if it is established, let's focus on establishing the facts first. eric: can we trust saudi arabia and trust them after 9/11, can we really trust the government? >> look, i would trust nobody when there's a crime, you want to know all of t

and turkey that also need to be developed. with this spring the united states and turkey closer together? wouldn't say the incident itself has changed the .elationship i think that clearly secretary pompeo is on his way to meet with senior turkish officials and discuss this issue and probably other issues as well. so i would say this is an issue where u.s., and particular turkish investigators, can work together to understand a bit better about what happened. there's areas for cooperation here, but in terms of the overall relationship, i would say it wouldn't have an effect. were you surprised by the early and quick trip of information? i think pretty clearly, the turks saw an advantage in terms of getting this story out. saudi'sably holding the feet to the fire. host: michael is next in eatonville, new jersey, good morning. democrat. caller: it seemed pretty obvious to me that our government has taken the position that the ends justifies the means, and i understand a little bit about the complexities of the middle east and how we need alliances. the point i'm

turkeys decision to release pastor brunson. and there's probably a multitude of reasons. including a desire to build their relationship with the united states. it is complicated with turkey. they plan on purchasing russian air defense systems much against or in conflict with u.s. foreign policy. so it is not that there are areas of concern with turkey. and there is no evidence to suggest that if the president isn't correct in saying what he did i think time will tell as the information flows in really what motivated turkey. we haven't heard from them. arthel: the question of course, was based on the alleged murder of jamal khashoggi. then when the president was asked about that in terms of what he would do to saudi arabia if in fact, it is proven by his estimation that saudi arabia was behind the alleged murder. he says will stick together, make a determination and he wants to look at other things that can be done that can be very severe. he says, he points out the economic conundrum for him. he says it is tremendous order for many american companies when you have arms sales to the tune of $110 billion in saudi arabia. should that be a conc

close relationship with russia and now i think trying to repair the relationship with the united states. turkey will always take the side of who has momentum and right now, under this president, you know, whether you agree or disagree, i'm going to tell you, the momentum in the middle east is back with the united states of america and you look at the sanctions the president put on turkey a year ago unthinkable, they're a nato ally, i think turkey is desperate for some relief and glad they let this pastor that never should have been detained go and hopefully a new era in our relationship. i've been to turkey as a military pilot. it's a very important location. >> hopefully some of the other prisoners held there are coming out soon as well. saudi arabia is hosting the future investment initiative later this month as an important economic summit. steve mnuchin stated he still plans on attending the summit as others pulled out. should he withdraw or should he go? >> if i was him, i wouldn't go. i think it sends a strong message. saudi arabia, like it or not, is going to continue to be an economic p

turkey needs the united states. turkeygive the impression that it is building an international consensus against what it believes was a saudi murderer on turkish soil and does not want to confront saudi arabia alone, wants to have powerful friends. >> you are standing outside the saudi consulate there in istanbul. let me ask you about the other big story out of turkey, the disappearance and possible death, likely death of that u.s.-based saudi journalist, jamal khashoggi. what's the latest on that, richard? >> reporter: so, jamal khashoggi was a -- i'm saying was because the presumption was that he was killed. a turkish official told nbc news that quote, turkey is 100% confident that jamal is unfortunately dead and he has been killed by the 15 saudis who were in turkey for a brief amount of time. turkey believes that saudi arabia sent on two chartered planes a 15-member hit team that they were laying in wait in cars and advance vans in this neighb. when khashoggi went into this consulate to sort out some paperwork last tue

storm of former american president barack obama by late through the way sions between turkey and the united states have been strained especially over syria because the americans washington have have been giving support to the p y d y p g of the kurdish fighters in syria which turkey claims to be an out those terrorist organization and linked to p.k. k. also some disputes over this case pastor bronson brought a lot of sound because two countries post sanctions over each other as he was house arrested but of course. case is very important because turkey's and turkey and saudi relations are at the brink the diplomatic ties are at the edge of being cut which means circle will need some international support to have pressure over saudi arabia regarding disappearance or maybe killing according to the official sources so not turkey uncovers hoping that turkey will have support from washington to be able to put some pressure over saudi arabia as trumps trump and saudi relations are very strong but of course time will show because we have been reading it trumps decisions about the a military support to sau

the united states has officially asked turkey for a recording, said to have been made by turkish intelligenceof the saudi journalist jamal khashoggi being murdered and dismembered in the saudi consulate in istanbul. mr trump has again praised the saudi leadership and its strong trade relationship with the us, but rejected suggestions he's trying to distract attention or "cover up" what may have happened. the washington post is to publish the last column mr khashoggi wrote before he disappeared. from istanbul, the bbc‘s mark lowen. at the home where diplomats entertain, police hunting the darkest of crimes. the saudi consul—general‘s residence in istanbul scoured by turkish and saudi teams searching forjust what happened to jamal khashoggi. it's over two weeks since the journalist disappeared after entering the consulate. turkey alleges murder by the saudi government. the american secretary of state shuttled from riyadh to ankara, promising turkey's president saudi arabia would investigate but donald trump has taken a softer line, fuelling suspicions he is helping the saudis shift the blame. i

you are dealing with three countries if you count the united states. turkey and saudi arabia with remarkable capability. someone should have an answer. hallie jackson at the white house. our white house correspond ept. >>> after hurricane michael, the residents of the panhandle are bracing for weeks of clean up and recovery. the president getting his first happened look this hour. the damage is being assessed, be we know tens of thousands are without power and there is little doubt that the death toll, now at 19, will rise. joining us where the president just toured, msnbc, marianna? >> reporter: the president surveying the damage here in the panhandle and the gulf for the first time with the first lady. he was also with florida governor, rick scott. cities left utterly devastated. you can see the shape of the chamber of commerce behind me and you have been talking for the past 48 hours on the ground here. the needs are catastrophic. i'm here with mike. we spoke to you yesterday huh no idea the president would be coming. can i get your appreciation of the vis

between the two leaders because there are also some other issues waiting on the table between united states and turkey but presenter don was so determined during his speech yesterday and it seems today he is going to be discussing the details with his cabinet to during the cabinet meeting in the following hours but we are expecting it to reveal we are expecting that here every detail every small detail of this investigation because until now since the investigation file has not been completed as. body a were not able to be found. it was only the leaks to the media that was able to put saudi arabia in corner and create pressure and finally at make make them at the met that is dramatic shoot through was killed inside the consulate probably now we will be hearing more detail is also because we are expecting that the saudi officials are to be to brief turkish officials regarding the ongoing investigation the independent investigation in saudi arabia regarding the case but of course what will determine. speech is also what mr president donald trump is going to say how they will react against saudi arabia b

united states i think you will go by plane i don't know but he will probably leave branson was among thousands of people arrested in two thousand and sixteen after defeating an attempt to overthrow turkey's president reject a pair john accuses businessman fits the luck of orchestrating to attempted overthrow and is demanding his extradition from the united states donald trump has said no and when our don refused to release the pastor trump in retaliation doubled turkish import tariffs fifty year old bronson led a small congregation in the city of izmir and has called tricky home for more than twenty years prosecutors that brunson uses religious work as cover for being a guest spot i have as accused of trying to convert kurds to christianity to divide the country all the charges included guilt of association with the alp old kurdistan workers party or p.k. k. and the girl and movement the indictment which came eighteen months after his the tension was based on secret witness claims just. a little metallic rather than the evidence collected in testimonies given in the past became void after the new witness statements also enjoys in think tanks contributed a lot during the course of the tri

united states. so the basic geometry in the region remains intact. there is the iranian presence through the region. israeli-saudi-uae quiet alliance against it. the united states, and i think turkeystill in place. if saudi arabia were plunged into a political crisis, that alliance against iran may collapse. hear a great, we deal of rhetoric designed to look fearsome. but it is impressive that no one has taken any concrete steps. rishaad: the whole thing was very badly handled, to say the least. on an ally's land was even worse. pressuree facing internally? >> the real pressure against him doesn't come from reformers. he is considered the reformer. he is the one who took the radical step to let women drive. it's the people who oppose these reforms that are the threat against him. the people he imprisoned a while ago at a hotel. he has a lot of opposition to the fact that he wants to transform the saudi economy. liberalization. and up until this murder, he was the hero of much of the world saying here is a man who wants to modernize saudi arabia. of course, he has committed this murder and is despised. but israel enemies are the conservatives in saudi arabia who are appalled by wha

crown prince mohamed and so man it's for sure there are negotiations between saudi arabia turkey included united states because turkey is hosting a very special guest today to cia director but of course turkey doesn't want to burn bridges with saudi arabia right away but turkey says whatever it takes turkey will be after the real truth and and turkey wants this investigation to be closed in a real and factual way ok so there were many thanks for that from what i heard us go live now to shell his consulate building and istanbul surge all is said and said as all steroid questions but the the real question is how long is he prepared to wait for the answers. well that is a good question i mean three weeks now when the turks seem to be patient as ever and not even though they have from the beginning going to do to also made some sort of set specific dates will be it's maybe not necessarily in that clear tone that's to widen gave when he said on sunday that choose the he would reveal the naked truth but they have managed to at least force some sorts of movements that say from not only the saudis but also the

we have heard reports from washington that some sort of deal between the united states and turkey is in the offing. the idea is the united states will unfreeze frozen assets of two senior turkish officials. minister of the interior and minister of justice. those assets were frozen in retaliation for the trial of pastor brunson. in addition to that, the united states will lift tariffs it imposed this summer on turkish exports of steel and aluminum. in addition, the united states will take off the deal to sell turkey f-35 fighter jets. in exchange, turkey will lift the travel ban currently on pastor brunson which would allow him to simply book a ticket and leave the country probably better not to return. dave. >> we're on stand by for that. ben, thank you. >>> we'll talk sports ahead. an ugly night in the meadowlands for big blue after embarrassing loss to the eagles. is the eli manning era over for the new york football giants? andy scholes has the bleacher report next. i it all the time. "have you lost weight?" of course i have- ever since i started renting from national. because nati

and turkey so non-causal has been following events for us at the court in. possibly else's release was welcomed by both united states and turkey but it was a surprise for some after the trial after the. decision was announced his lawyer came out and he told us that he was expecting his release but not at the end of today's trial of course now he's on the way back home his lawyer told us that because he was facing some safety risks and security risk the risks he was planning to go back to united states and now he's on the way but of course the timing of this this is is very important very critical especially for turkey who has been having some diplomatic tension with saudi arabia over the a mysterious disappearance of journalists to malcolm's ship in istanbul general consulate building now turkey believes that washington will be able to support turkey after bronson's frillies and turkey will have the leverage to put some international pressure over saudi arabia regarding. this case of course it's not the only thing there are some economic issues that turkey needed support from washington plus the military corporation

to to throw russia under the bus easily in favor of some kind of an alliance with the united states because turkey personally is in a very difficult position of the moment there's a lot of pressure on him at home over the syria policy there's a lot of people at home saying why are you not returning all those syrian refugees back to syria and of course that agreement over is probably the last you know straw that. syria policy which has been disastrous to be honest while we're still on the subject of syria publicized details of the journalist murder are extremely disturbing but not in the context of syria because. there are things much worse that have been done in that country by the rebels that are supported either by saudi arabia or i'm afraid. but speaking about saudi arabia do you think. is going to in any way limit its bargaining position when it comes to conflict. conflict. as you mentioned the russians have been i wouldn't describe them as sympathetic but at least i ask critical as everybody else surely they would want to preserve that kind of goodwill. i think the impact of this murder on th

. >>> in north carolina pastor jailed in turkey for two years is back home in the united states tonightdrew brunson was attained on having links to terrorism and espionage. his arrest followed conviction on one of charges in turkish court on friday but sentenced to time served. today he was greeted in the oval office.>> we especially want to thank the administration that fought for us, i know that you have been engaged.>> no concessions were made but he also predicted the release could lead to perhaps great relations between the united states and turkey.>>> santa barbara headed to kentucky for a political rally this afternoon and fired up a crowd by raising the possibility of democrats controlling congress in november. >> if you want to stop pelosi from becoming speaker of the house, we can't do that. that will not be good. then you have to go out and vote for andy. great man.>> and he is being charged by former fighter pilots joining yesterday on the campaign trail.>>> harris making her first campaign trip to iowa, setting off more speculation about a possible run for the white house i