us will be very, very difficult. we know the fiscal decisions we make in the coming months will determine our ability to provide for the defense and security of the united states, and without question the federal deficit and national debt are national security concerns. this issue before us at this moment does not go against that recognition. this body has already recognized the need to look at defense and security spending in order to meet these goal objectives. i believe we can find enough savings within the department of defense to make a few necessary reinvestments like this. if we do our job well enough this summer, my amendment will allow us to put a small portion of the savings we find into an increase in the maximum amount of special pay we make available to our troops facing hostile fire or imminent danger in 2012 by a mere $100 a month. i have the distinct honor of representing thousands of oregon national guard troops and veterans who served bravely in iraq and afghanistan. they have left their families and their jobs to face death and injury in combat. they deserve our support. current compensation levels for special combat pay were set back in 200

united states? should we be concerned? >> i don't think so. it's a growing market for us. it's good for americans to invest. it will become an increasing source of energy and oil to the united states. it will be a place, where again, we'll be able to partner on things like climate change, what brazil does with its enormous forest will have consequences far beyond its borders. we should welcome the fact that countries like brazil are essentially getting ready to take their place on the world stage. well need other countries to succeed. we need markets. we need partners. so sure, every now and then we're going to find ourselves competing or disagreeing. that's inevitable. but by and large, brazil's success is exactly the sort of thing we should wish for, whether from an economic vantage point or a foreign policy vantage point. >> someone said to me, look, it feels like the united states in the 1950s from an economic standpoint because people are happy, they're optimistic, they have jobs. and as a result, they're spending money. the telecom sector for example rising, and then the catalyst of the olympics in the

the united states used to acunt for about a third of brazilian trade, and now it accounts for aboutalf that. and china is brazil's biggest trading partner. so you've see a big shif in patent. tremendous entreeurial vigor. emendous passion. it extends beyond the soccer eld. >> yeah. >> and o view is that this is the decade of latin america. our view is the twbig evts in 2014, the world cup which brazil must win and 16, the olympi which i think will be another stunning ent will reposition brazil and the whole latin american continent. and you mustn't forget the other ayers as well. mexico is our second ggt market. e third biggest market is argentina despite their issues and then colombia and chile. pretty much across the board 're seng greatgrow, vigorous growth. and wpp's future is no longer confined to the u.s. and western europe. it's very much in thes bricks. >> a good point. what doyou think the big challenge is here in brazil? you talked about th inequality whh is obviously an issue. t dilma, the president talked about inflation which is another issue. how concerned are you about i

the united states use a radar installations in various parts the former soviet space that they say would be better for tracking or any missiles so you know there's a lot of stuff going on at this stage i think it's perhaps more this product is to use for many pieces of you more about kind of anchoring some of these countries in nato in a suite and there are fears about russian special new them or just russian power than it really is about being against iran again we have military assets much closer to iran that are much more useful for targeting missiles bahrain kuwait iraq itself. so yes and especially as of late this is something that seems to take on more and more a rule of comforting the polls including the czechs and other people that have recently joined nato in the with the real members it's not some kind of they don't have a second rate membership they are full players in the alliance and they have all the benefits of responsibility that that entails so you mention this well but we also are key as a reporter on the ground in france for the conference is taking place. who kind of

the rest of nato cannot match this. >> i am concerned that the united states is showing reluctance till -- use of the efforts at its disposal. when you are trying to correct -- protect civilians with air power, the americans have the precision missiles that no other country has, with the best prospect of destroying his military without endangering civilians in this area. i think the americans have become -- cannot be too reluctant to allow the unique assets that they have, to be properly utilized. togreat britain's ability deploy air power is now severely limited by the need to maintain the libyan operation. the coalition now stresses a host of reasons why they are not going to take similar action in syria and elsewhere. >> there is a high bar to military engagement and it involves genocide and the grave and systematic war crimes, it appeared that gadaffi was prepared to commit this and it kept them from carrying out this resolution. we have not seen that magnitude of violence in other countries and we hope that we will not. >> diplomacy is the favored solution to the challenges in the arab wo

taking a look great when we get back we will be talking about the issue of torture using the death penalty in the united states stay with us. give us some closure see the story. is if you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's the other part of it and realize that everything. i'm trying hard welcome is a big issue. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions. who can you trust no one. is you deal with the global machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sessions when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more. but the topic of capital punishment is of course not without controversy but the rape in which that some us states have begun executing their death row inmates could in fact amount of torture now that is at least according to some critics who are furious with the states for literally experimenting on humans or so they say with lethal injections now all of this because of a massive shortage of a key drug used for state executions so if you're a busy death penalty state what do you do when your preferred execution method tr

this is a chalice that john paul ii, i hope you can see that, used in the masses when he came to the united states chalice right here. now, there's nothing magical about this, but the fact that a holy person whom we loved so much had it in his hand to consecrate the body and blood of christ and that's special. and lauren green is asking to take it home, i'm not going to let her do that, but i think this is a side of the human element the of this whole experience we knew him, we loved him and it's nice to have a holy hero not just michael jackson as greg burke mentioned. >> you know, the pontiff benedict in his homily this morning talked about a variety of issues about how pope john paul ii opened political systems, fogs, and dealt with marxism. father jonathan, you met pope john paul ii and you have that chalice and the meaning to your life and others, can you describe that. >> sure. well, a lot has been said about the whole dealing with the sex abuse scandal in the church and how the priests have gone through so much over these last years, especially since 2002, still under the watch of john paul

use that. the constitution of the united states is very clear, that's our job. nobody is saying that we should underfund defense. this is not what this is about and i'm delighted the gentleman voted against the stimulus and the tarp and the day that chrysler repaid its government loans six years earlier, the gentleman might revisit that point. this is about good government and deficit reduction and abiding by the spirit of the constitution that says we decide how money is used, not the agency. and with that, i reserve. the chair: the gentleman from virginia has yielded back. does the gentleman from connecticut yield back? mr. himes: i yield back. the chair: the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from connecticut. those in favor of the amendment say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes appear to have it. and the amendment is agreed to. pursuant to clause 6, rule 18, further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from connecticut will be postponed. the chair: for what purpose does the gentlelady from texas seek recognition? ms. jackso

the president of the united states will be giving us chapter and verse. ce president of the united states joseph biden notified congressional leaders. he began telling members of congress shortly before 10:00 p.m., 10:00 p.m. was when the white house announced that the president would be making this urgent address to the nation. so right now let's go to general jack keen, four star retired army general. general, wonderful news. i want to get your professional reaction to and personal reaction to the news that osama bin laden, the founder or one of the founding fathers of al qaeda, the american nightmare for almost a full decade has been finally killed by u.s. military action whether bomb or missile. we think missile. probably one of the drones. but general jack keen tell us your thoughts personal and professional? >> great news. i am glad you are on the air geraldo when it is happening. >> thank you. >> we have rendered al qaeda significant defeat over the last number of years. certainly in iraq which became their center of graph vit initiinnis -- gravity

united states. all of these industries used water from this system. and it served as a prototype for many american cities, including pittsburgh and new york. man: new york city went to philadelphia and said, "you know, we're thinking of developing a hudson river water supply -- what do you suggest we do?" and they said, "we've had "a lot of problems on the schuylkill. "don't go to the hudson river. go to the upland and work by gravity." and that's what new york city did. they first went to the hudson highlands, but 150 years later, it went to the delaware highlands. and really diverted the water that normally went to philadelphia to new york city. i don't think they anticipated that. narrator: the majority of new york city's drinking water comes from watersheds in upstate new york. a watershed is the area of land where water from rain or snow melt drains downhill into a body of water. mountains act as a funnel to feed rivers and lakes. and in this case, reservoirs. in the new york city system, water is collected and stored in 19 reservoirs, which can

plus, on the diplomacy, pakistan's ambassador to the united states joins us. and good day. i'm andrea mitchell live from capitol hill. the death of osama bin laden may go down as president obama's most significant foreign policy achievement. now the white house and u.s. intelligence agencies are mining a treasure trove of intelligence data seized from the compound. nbc's chuck todd is chief white house correspondent and the co-host of "the daily rundown". bring us up to date. what is the white house saying on their plans, whether or not they're going to go forward with a proof of death, how they're handling all of the intelligence that they have now obtained from the compound? >> reporter: one thing that folks should realize, no decision has been made about whether to do this or not. you heard john brennan, both this morning, this is the president's chief deputy having to do with national terrorism and homeland security, you heard him say both yesterday and today that he finds it interesting that nobody -- they don't feel as if they have to prove anything because nobody in

narrator: agriculture and industry use roughly 80% of the water consumed in the united states. water is the basis for manufacturing many goods and provides the ability to clean and sterilize everything from computer chips to the surgical instruments used in hospitals. kelly: the minute that there's not enough water for businesses, industry, and individuals, they have to go elsewhere. and when they go elsewhere, jobs go elsewhere. your entire economy begins to suffer with the lack of clean water. narrator: while the water infrastructure provides for our health, safety, and economy, a growing concern is that the value society derives from water has not traditionally been reflected in the price we pay for water. man: when you take a look at how much people pay for water, as a percentage of median household income, it's usually less than 1%. and when you compare that to how much we pay for electricity and gas, cable tv, and internet, the bottom line is, in the united states, we don't pay a heck of a lot for water. curtis: at an average cost of about $2.50 for 1,000 gallons of tap wa

narrator: agriculture and industry use roughly 80% of the water consumed in the united states. water is the basis for manufacturing many goods and provides the ability to clean and sterilize everything from computer chips to the surgical instruments used in hospitals. kelly: the minute that there's not enough water for businesses, industry, and individuals,

interests, its intentions, their values and tra dpigss and ask them to do the same to the united states because that will help us avoid the miscalculations that raise the odds. >> rose: what secretary kissinger said to me was that many chinese believe the united states wants to contain their growth and development do you believe that? >> ( translated ): just the united states... does the united states want to contain china's development. actually, during president hu jintao's visit to the united states the u.s. government and president obama himself said on many occasions that the united states hoped to see prosperity and development in china and believed that this would serve the world and the united states. nibble what your president said. >> what do you think the biggest misconception is about your country from america in general? >> ( translated ): i don't think this is misconception, it is more of a lack of understanding. >> rose: what do you want us to understand? >> ( translated ): well, in the first place it is not easy to really know china because china is an ancient civilization and we are of the orien

a really full cd we've united states all accessible to us from television facebook. google yahoo always mating with some of the nations have you seen the place and for us intelligence. it's not a matter of serious a payment they have an interface and they have developed for us intelligence communities and that is it because that facebook. is actually run by u.s. intelligence now it's not like that it's simply the u.s. intelligence is able to bring to bear legal and political pressure to them and it's costly for them to hand out records and i'm going to go on so they have automated the process and everyone should understand that if they when they had their friends to facebook they are doing the free work for the united states intelligence agencies. in building this database with let's talk about. the latest of wiki leaks cables that have been released they show the u.k. as a haven for extremism with at least thirty five grams one of a detainees having at least passed through the u.k. is the u.k. still a haven for terrorists going to still be a haven for terrorists but

of using the depleted uranium munitions the weaponry which britain is currently deploying is not suitable for british. because they are land based munitions in our place but certainly the united states typically uses depleted uranium munitions on a ten airplanes those are the kind of gunships which are essentially a plane constructed around a cannon and they thought in far thousands of rounds of depleted uranium munitions the top brass u.s. top brass this announce that those gunships are being used and then did so secretly say d'you munitions were being used on them yet so to speak but we have no confidence in that statement because in the past in the past conflicts where d. us been. notably in the first gulf war in bosnia. in one nine hundred ninety nine and subsequently very extensively in iraq on all those occasions they denied the usage of them then it only became evident afterwards they had a new so we do not have confidence in the current assurance that the eight heads deployed in libya are using depleted uranium and we know the terrible consequences for the health of the environment as a result of depleted uranium usage it's a radioactive weaponry form the raised great instan

meanwhile, there's a delicate situation right now that's brewing between pakistan and the united states. many us lawmakers questioning the pakistani's stated commitment to the search for bin laden. >> if it turns out that he didn't know that osama bin laden was there, it does represent an intelligence failure and i think that's something that needs to be investigated. i know master alkani, said we're going to launch a full inquiry into this and get to the bottom and say why has our intelligence failed to discover that. >> the country's prime minister use of raza galani defended his agency's intelligence over their role saying other countries shouldn't be so quick to point the finger of blame here. we're learning according to a us official after the chief congratulated the us joint chiefs of staff. >> we understand president obama will be at ground zero tomorrow. are you hearing that as well? >> yes, he will meet with family victims of 911 at ground zero and wants to meet quietly so hes not planning on making any public comments. by the way, he did invite president george w. bush to join him but

rid of all sitting in the united states all accessible to us you know facebook. google yahoo all these made him recently have been into places for u.s. intelligence but it's not a matter of serious subpoena they have a need to face it they have developed u.s. intelligence to humans now is it because the facebook. is actually run by your center right now it's not like that it's simply that u.s. intelligence is able to bring to bear legal and political pressure to ground and it's costly for them to hand out records and. so they had ordered the process and everyone should understand that they were great idea friends to facebook they are doing free work for the united states intelligence agencies. if you will be whose daughter pays for it let's talk about. the latest survey wiki leaks cables to have been released they show the u.k. as a haven for extremism with at least thirty five guantanamo detainees having at least passed through the u.k. is the u.k. still a haven for terrorists going to still be ahead of a terrorist but certainly a haven for all the darks and for

legal program not torture and there we go the former vice president saying that the united states should keep on using methods like waterboarding to get information we're going to explore what some call and enhanced interrogation techniques and others call torture. he didn't want to. hear for the release. of the iraqi people are ready for american troops to go home why does the united states insist on overseeing its bottom. immigration and been logons death may be dominating news headlines but with less than one week left until the u.s. runs up against its fourteen point three trillion dollars debt limit we decided to begin our newscast this evening with a look at america's financial health now u.s. economic performance does seem to be in freefall as public debt. deficits computer soar and little class is more at risk than ever meanwhile realistic solutions from washington are frankly nowhere to be seen now it's difficult to overstate just how serious the u.s. debt issue is but sometimes it does take a little bit of a fresh perspective to really get the depth of the problem and yesterday my colleague

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people and their everybody ships when they use their interests and their location is big communications with each other it would all seem we've been the united states all accessible to us intelligence facebook. google yahoo all these make a muslim nation have built in the basis for us intelligence but it's not a matter of searching it's a pain and they have a need to face the brain had developed for us intelligence to use now is it because the facebook. is actually run by us and you know it's not like that it's simply that us intelligence is able to bring to bear legal and political pressure to them and it's costly for them to hand out records and one by one so they have automated the process everyone should understand that the great we may have different needs to facebook they are doing the free work for the united states intelligence agencies. believe me started basement let's talk about other places sort of wiki leaks cables that's been released they show the u.k. as a haven for extremism with at least thirty five ton of a detainees having at least passed through the u.k. is the u.k. still a haven for terrorists still be a haven for terrorists b

exactly what you say it is in the united states in the united states raised in two thousand and pete they should c.d.'s own cd or solutions on. united states mortgage use the same think happens here they should see this on the big government boards who create the same players or the same effect the simulation of the market and there is the same results as for examining nosegays lehman brothers or pull ups after right even here it's happening exactly the same but the greek banks market collapsed because of the c.d.s. the greek government boards yes were familiar now is how the hedge funds and the banks get together and they collude and they engage in market manipulation insider trading to collapse economies to collapse countries and on this front with greece you've got john paulson right he was in the country recently with goldman sachs colluding to collapse the economy correct and not produce them to just one year a cut for growth you were here with father fund managers together with the goldman sachs in the with all those international speculators that were fear nothin's there when i spoke with the absurd greek government dead. good. c.d.'s they're ma

states, and many are looking to california for leadership. california, if anything positions us better to seize the clean energy economy and bring jobs and new revenue here to the unitedtes, it's going to be california. >> you're a firm believe that the rules lead to the money. the investment -- the venture capital with the money follows the rulemaking, the regulation? >> must have policy signals. they're crucial. when we talk about putting a price on carbon and a cap on carbon, several things happen. one is you faebl have an honest accounting system. carbon pollution costs a fortune. to say it's free is ridiculous, but that's how it's priced right now. putting a price on it is key and bugt a wap every cap on the amount that carbon can be emitted. >> these are not setting on the sidelines waiting for this to happen. >> when you have a price segment naul, a cost on carbon and the limit, that's when the clean technology industry sector believes there is a real market here. that they're going to be able to build their technology in a way that's competent ti. you know, if kevin parker from deutsche bank was quoted as saying he is putting $7 billion in deutsche bank's mone

in the united states. police used tear gas and clubs to disperse protesters then president richard nixon called in the military. robert klotz was a police captain i think and later the eighty second airborne came in and helicopter. and i was assigned as a law with the commanding general of the eighty second airborne and paratroopers landed at the national monument. protesters wouldn't back down people trying everything to end the war and nothing would end it and so this was like one of the last ditch efforts and in a sense it was almost like an indian tribal sort of like you know the image of maybe they were sitting bull sitting you know part of a massacre so for us it was the last stand the last stand of dignity you know. trying to end the war. and and we willing to abandon people willing to you know put their lives on the line to do that. by eight am on may third police had arrested more than two thousand people we had made plans as to where we were going to be prisoners when they were arrested you line arena was on

nations' their land base any asians in our case but certainly the united states typically uses depleted uranium munitions on a ten airplanes gunships which are essentially a plane constructed around a cannon and they can fire thousands of rounds of depleted uranium munitions the top brass u.s. top brass that announce that. gunships are being used then did. you munitions were being used on them yet. we have no confidence in that statement because in the past in the past conflicts where the news notably in the first gulf war in bosnia. in one nine hundred ninety nine in. subsequently very extensively in iraq on all those occasions they denied the usage of them and it only became evident afterwards they had indeed been used so we do not have confidence in the current assurance that the eight deployed in libya aren't using depleted uranium and we know the terrible consequences for the health for the environment as a result of depleted uranium usage it's a radioactive weaponry form there is great instance sharp increases of birth defects of cancers particularly brain cancers lymphomas and so

united states. faces a difficult position weekly. which is the bulk of people who support us and finally julian who do you consider to be your number one enemy but our number one enemy is ignorance. and i believe that is the number one enemy everyone. is not understanding what is actually going on in the world it's only when you start to understand that you can make effective decisions and effective plans and out christian use he was promoting ignorance well those organizations and tried to keep things secret. and those organizations which distort truth from asian to make a false misrepresentative and it's the latter category and it is better than here i mean it really is my opinion that the media it in general so that we we have to question whether the world wouldn't be better off without them all together. that is so distraught here's to you how the world actually is. the result is we see wars and the same corrupt governments continue. one of the hopeful things i've discovered is that when you get every war that is started in the past sixty years has been a result of media

harboring bin laden will receive a response from any country which he used to be harboring us as united states is trying to conduct its aggressive response. faces we can pressure and united kingdom . does it came to exit i mean the united states. really faces a difficult position politically. which is the ball because people have supported us and finally julian who do you consider to be on number one enemy. number one enemy is ignorance. and i believe that is the number one immediate everyone. is not understanding what is actually going on in the world and so i mean when you start to understand i mean you can make it fit the proceedings in effect. you know question is he was promoting ignorance and all those organizations that try to keep things secret. and those organizations which distort truth from ation to make it false misrepresented it in this latter category. it is bad media. it really is my and i opinion that the media in general are so bad. we have to question whether the world would be better off without them all together . is so distorted of how the world actually use. but the resul

i think when the president of the united states uses the words self-determination of the people, of individualsdescribe what's going on and says that the legitimacy of regimes is defined by the freedom of the people,s that's pretty powerful stuff. he also said that these basic core principleses which he talked about, democracy, freedom of speech, pluralism, rule of law, that these are universal and that they apply to all people in the view of the united states. and that the u.s. would support this everywhere and oppose it when governments are pushing back. this is pretty powerful stuff. but it's at the the rhetorical level. i think we have to say that this is very good speech-making. and we hope that it translates into policymaking. it hasn't done so before very much. but i think the situation is changing and obama is now catching up with the arab people. this is a very interesting situation. so there's some very powerful statements, i thought, about the arab spring. arab-israeli issues i suppose we'll get to later. >> brown: let me ask mona eltahawy, was he catching up with what is happening o

richard holbrooke role in surrendering the us war on drugs you know again is stale and in effect a war being the ever given drug lords interest in the united states the us them makes a disservice and compromises their objectivity. of new york times nature is unpredictable and some pessimists are not taking any chances a boxer being spared on everything from building a bunker in a bad garden to investing in old style armageddon proved are as our teasing a run of discovery channel inventors are more than willing to pass in. the tsunami in japan. the earthquake in haiti. the gulf of mexico oil spill big disasters are rarely out of the headlines and many say the worst is yet to come there's only one way to be safe this is a cold war era bunker and army personnel were meant to be kept safe from chemical biological and most important nuclear these days apocalyptic fears have changed and so have the solutions welcome to. unknown play for the rich just outside moscow recently as well as erecting how's that resemble fortresses local residents have sort of strong enough to withstand a disaster of biblical proportions the company that makes them both the en

christmas cards or any country which he used to be harboring us as united states are trying to conduct its aggressive response. faces we compressions and the united kingdom. does came to exploit me the united states. then it faces a difficult position politically. which is the bulk of people who like them and support us i'm finally julian who do you consider to be your number one enemy and number one enemy the ignorance. and i believe that is the number one in me is everyone is not understanding what is actually going on in the world and certainly when you start to understand that you can make it fit the seasons and effective plans you know chris news who is promoting ignorance all those organizations that try to keep things secret. and those organizations which distort truth from ation to making false misrepresentative in this latter category. you know is detonated. it really is my opinion that the media it in general so that we we have to question whether the world would be better off without them all together. there is no distortive to how the world actually uses. but the result is

in nine states which involved in rounding up these units and people setting up a process that was from the very beginning corrupt there's a reason why they're in one problemo and not on the us mainland and not in our country and that reason was to hide them and keep an outsider look just like you had caribbean island from creation money laundering united states was engaging people doing ok let's move on and talk about your media partners one of which is the guardian with whom you are now involved in a dispute that you chose them as your primary english language partner the distributor saying that we can these cables and now guardian journalists to publish this book on wiki leaks which you say is an attack on you how would you describe following that the gods is the guardian stance on whistleblowing and media freedom in general and they are they are publishing organizations so of course they want as much right for them to propositions as possible that's a natural self interest what they have done with this cable cooking i mean you see incredible reaction over reaction of cables is they have pushed the right of the people to know the very very edge and what they're concerned

it is rare for any president of the united states to use the term 1967 borders. and clarified it in the apec speech, just as they had a plan in the clinton administration, you go back to 1967, then negotiate land swaps. >> john, you can defend, you can stand here and defend the president's remarks. i will not defend the president's remarks. the president's remarks are amplified across the middle east. don't think this was a tremendous insult to benjamin neganyahu. that symbolism wasn't lost on israel's opponent. israel is what's working in the middle east region now. the united states should do everything they can and not cast any aspergss on this process at this particular time. the president's moves in a statement last week were dangerous in a volatile region. >> you say dangerous in a volatile region. the white house would disagree. let's shift to politics. is there any doubt, should anyone have doubt that michele bachmann will be a candidate for republican nomination for president? >> i will let people know in june. i said in the beginning that's when we'll l

more inflaming going on than any one photo or set of photos would ever have have done for us you know the united states. when used to essentially be in a covert war in pakistan it's one of the reasons why leon panetta says the u.s. needs to keep giving money and the aid that it has to pakistan but after this osama bin laden and killing we've seen pakistani officials come out saying you know condemning it or criticizing it pakistanis very upset that their sovereignty was violated where does this relationship go from here and you said the u.s. overstepped their sovereignty it is as if every we know the u.n. didn't approve it obviously in the pakistanis that know about it apparently well to do two things let's look at this very realistically first book and just when we were we knew this in zero three that the pakistanis were playing both sides of the fence so our own policy leaders have been either naive or worse were guarding the fact that they're not playing ball this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you know they're incompetent or in cahoots either way spat with that said we way that he was not playin