they have backed the united steelworkers union. what do you think of this, ben?ink the union movement, even though i belong to it and love my unions, isalling apar this is a publicity stunt play. i don't know whether it will go anywhere. involves a tiny number of people. the thing that worries me is if the unions decide they want to organize university students themselves the way they do in some european countries. then we have the people of the united states, the cab driver payinghe drug-using university student. that's what scares me. >> there is a way to avoid this and allow these kids to share in the loot their sools do get, at least some of it without unionizing, right? >> this union is saying it's not going after pay initially. it's to cover to make sure that their tuition and all their expenses are covered and that their heth is taking care of. >> why the steelwkers union? >> exactly. any help that they can get from unions -- but the point is, they're not -- these students are not emplees, number one. and playing a college sport is voluntary and this onlye

and the reason i guess the united steelworkers, maybe they have the unblemished record. >> they're providing >> my dad was a steelworker. he did not come up -- i think this is a good idea. here's why. college sports is a busine. if you're working at a business, why can't you orgaze and get some of that money? >> there's plenty of ecedent for unions supporting other unions. and this is a group of workers who have been exploited for a long time. it's a pretty good idea of the unions -- >> i think it's a b idea for them to try to unioniz >> no one else is helping them. >> that's right. >> they all get to be fancily rich when they leave school. somebody's helping -- >> complete untrue. completely wrong there. a tiny percentage does. >> that tiny percentage gets to be very, very rich. >> this football player never made it to the big leagues. ybe because i stunk! thank you al >>> up next, no pain, then no gain. charles' best picks so far this year. up more than 20%. but you didn't g into that, did you? no, you didn't. no, you didn't. charlesameriprise asked people a mple question: can you keep you

the united steelworkers which is one of the more progressive unions has recently made some tentativearrangements in the vast country this huge worker owned industrial banking housing school educational cooperative. that could get somewhere and i mentioned pair away its work and is discussed in participates in the spread of worker owned enterprises in mostly northern ohio. they have kind of an interesting history. back in 1977 at the beginning of the concerted efforts to destroy industrial production in the united states so the beginning of the neoliberal assault on the population, u.s. steel decided to close its main steel plants in youngstown ohio. it was a steel town like other towns like detroit which had actually been built by the working classes. they didn't get the profits that they built it and they wanted to keep it. u.s. steel wanted to sell it, to close it down and the union offered to buy it. they had community support. they even had some support of i think a republican governor. just let the workers by the planting keep running it or you u.s. steel did not want that and i

let's bring in leo gerard, the international president of the united states steelworkers of america. be with you. >> why would college football players want to unionize in the first place? >> one of the things that they're saying and rightfully so is that they're, in fact, employees. they have an employee/employer relationship. the kind of effort that they have to put in amounts to upwards of 40 hours a week. when it's training season, it's anywhere from 50 to 60 hours a week. and they really want to have a voice. that voice is about safety, about their scholarships. that voice is about the kind of protections that they need to make sure that they can graduate. and right now, they're prisoners of the ncaa. and the rules of the ncaa. and i want to also say, they're very, very concerned about having a role in defining what concussions are. there's rules for that in the players association but not in the ncaa. >> aren't they asking for stipends and possibly even a cut because the college football economy is so large? go ahead and answer that. >> they're not asking for wages. what they'r

the united steelworkers which is one of the more progressive unions has recently made some tentativearrangements in the vast country this huge worker owned industrial banking housing school educational cooperative. that could get somewhere and i mentioned pair away its work and is discussed in participates in the spread of worker owned enterprises in mostly northern ohio. they have kind of an interesting history. back in 1977 at the beginning of the concerted efforts to destroy industrial production in the united states so the beginning of the neoliberal assault on the population, u.s. steel decided to close its main steel plants in youngstown ohio. it was a steel town like other towns like detroit which had actually been built by the working classes. they didn't get the profits that they built it and they wanted to keep it. u.s. steel wanted to sell it, to close it down and the union offered to buy it. they had community support. they even had some support of i think a republican governor. just let the workers by the planting keep running it or you u.s. steel did not want that and i