in order to enforce the guidelines the irs has to examine the activities of these organizations to determine if they meet the requirements. and after citizens united the irs faced an explosion of applications from groups applying to 501(c)4's. the applications jumped from 752 in 2010 to 3357 in 2012, 90% jump. that's why you hear the stories stories about the irs seeking information from these groups about their activities. now, obviously the irs should and must apply these rules in a uniform way. in my view we should never have involved the irs in the business of having to investigate organizations on the right or the left to make these determinations. and here is the really interesting thing. the underlying statute, the written law passed by congress never envisioned putting the iras in a position. this statute never called for the primary purpose test the irs develops by regulation in the 1950s. indeed, section 501(c)(4) of the internal revenue code this statute provides for tax exemption to and i quote, civic leagues, organizations not organized for-profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare. it doesn't say a 501(c)(4)

the capital. we will not change our policy. strengthen its own presence red jerusalem, jerusalem -- israel has built new housing units in settlements, raising the ire of palestinian officials. us tweak, talks were assisted in for after abbas' party sunday unity pact with hamas, considered as a terror group. stacks on additional conditions which he knows israel cannot give, so instead of moving into peace with israel, he is moving into peace with hamas. he has to choose. >> even though the talks up brought in a result, many hope they soon resume. like john kerry, they believe in both parties grow further apart, this may lead to a violent confrontation. >> to turkey now where the turkish prime minister has said he will begin legal process to seek the extradition of the u.s.-based islamic cleric, former ally, now arch foe. err to ghent has been accused by ,im of using the campaign blaming him for the probe launched by the judiciary several months ago, into allegations of corruption within entourage. tension today on the korean peninsula. north korea has conducted live fire drills in two areas near a disputed sea border with south korea. the scene of d

>>stuart: i want to know whether or not the president of the united states use the irs.w. >> they circle the wagon, thought they could get away with it because of the presidential elections and nobody will pay attention. this committee was the one that drilled down. if it didn't, we would not have heard about all of this. stuart: the dow industrials up a solid 108 points with 20 points away from the all-time record closing high for the dow industrials. look at twitter rallying today getting the earnings after the bell today, the market pushed up 4 and a half, nearly 5%. now this, fresh food ingredients delivered to your door with a recipe, selection of recipes. you have to cook everything up yourself, you have to cook. plated brings you the recipe and brings you the ingredients. look at this, the man who founded plated, the company. i can't believe you're making a success of this. most americans don't cook. this arrives in this box, i am playing for it and you say you're making a success of it? >> is any of hundreds of thousands of these per month covering 90% of the cou

overwhelming response and the family says they received cars from all across the united states and even canada, japan, and ire -- ireland. >> now meteorologist mike nicco and a birthday gift with rain. >> a little bit of rain. unlike the weather at the coliseum for the rangers and a's it will be breezy and dropping to 52 but it will feel cooler than that. dress accordingly. the moisture is now in the high country. a few inches of snow are falling above 6,000 or 7,000 feet. 57 in yosemite. low 70's around sacramento and fresno. mid-to-upper 60 with scattered showers around the higher elevations of san diego and los angeles. >>> back now to san jose where we have a brushfire and crews are headed to the scene and you can see it from the freeway north 280 at the 101 junction and back to hercules, c.h.p. is on the scene and still no word of getting a tow truck a big rig and another truck got into it and it is on the shoulder eastbound 80 before willow and it is early enough i am not seeing delays and the non-commute direction. we have road work eastbound and westbound 80 between albany and emeryville in the opposi

no, the irs could cross a line going after conservatives but we better get every line on that tax return right or they are coming after us. the irs even has the president of the unitedking us up? not a smidgen of scandal at the irs. this is about no standards, no accountability, no remorse, no guilt. not even a smidgen of shame for conduct that i think is frankly shameless. you would think above that underthat threat of perjury line, do we as say, not as we do. at least they would be aacknowledging their hypocrisy even as they are bleeding us dry. by the way, irs, i really didn't write that. it was my producers. pam, you want to take a bow for that. in the meantime, they are not done the at the irs because a new tax idea is coming out of france. the liberals just love it. they want to tax your wealth, what you have, not what you make. what's weird about that? the tax idea or the fact that it's from the french! >>> hello everyone. i'm greg gutfeld along with andrea tantaros, dana perino, bob beckle, and eric boling. this is "the five." yeah, it's tax day or for 70 million households, tuesday. because for them, they pay no federal income tax so they are left wondering

unit to deny them tax exempt status. it would seem she also inserted herself, which is a big no no in the appeals froze try to quings the group in the irs that handles appeals in the organization to maintain the decisions that her units had laid out. so we now know how she did that. that's important because before it had all been a bit vague. >> that's direct evidence of what she did personally intervening. it's right there. got it. yes? >> yes. >> and i think the other thing that mattered, the committee also put out a time line which also provides a little information about motive. what you see is lots of people, democratic senators, aides, outside groups, all focusing on crossroads, gps and then surprise surprise lois lerner focusing on them. it suggests u.s. highly cognizant of the atmosphere and acting on that. >> dan, what caught a lot of people's attention was criminal, as in prosecution. that rach either up the pressure on miss lerner, does it not? >> it does indeed. you can go to prison or if you lie to the fbi during an investigation like this. so she had some real legal exposure for sure and probably others do as well. now, th

i don't have a memo from the president of the united states to the chief counsel's office of the irsr tax-exempt saying do such and such, target these groups but here's what we have. a speech the president gave to congress in the state of the union where he chastised the supreme court of the united states with the citizens united case. that case was opened up the ability of corporations to engage in political activity. he chastised the that. recall that for an shady groups. the supreme court was sitting there when he made these allegations against the supreme court. within weeks of him saying that a series of meetings took place at the irs and at the white house with the chief counsel of the irs, the head of the treasury, the head of the irs and they met with the president and others within the administration and within 30 days the targeting scheme was launched. is there a memo from the president's saying do this? that i don't have. i think it started with this speech, the state of the union message. stuart: this week maybe tomorrow this thing breaks wide open? >> i think you will se

guest: there is a whole unit of the irs that focuses on large businesses and many entities are under audit year-round where the audit teams are in the entity and looking at different issues for the whole year. they are basically under continuous audit. the largest corporations have activity on the -- the problem with the internal revenue code and how it is structured for the large entities and how they can move activity offshore or not. you are reading the press, there are certainly a lot of conversations about corporate tax reform. that is the big issue internationally. the irs is not alone. there is a lot of activity there. i do not think pulling individual auditors off would help. we would have to take a year and a half or more to train them up to understand the complex corporate returns. next to will go patricia in ohio, republican caller. caller: two questions. one, why is all of this nexus very? -- necessary?ust why don't we just reform the tax code? ,e hire people to do our taxes when the tax code is at fault here. my second question is, why in the world people give money back

record response as republicans see as the administration's foot dragging in its own irs investigation. >> we ought not to be complicity with the president of the united states to say there's not a smidgen of irs wrongdoing. >> this ought to have a second look. >> gop suspicions about that foot dragging were heightened again today after this exchange between attorney general eric holder and republican congressman jordan. did you interview lois learner? >> i said this is an ongoing matter and i'm not going to comment on an ongoing matter. >> so what -- her attorney has reported that you did. you won't confirm that that in fact took place? >> i'm not going to talk about an ongoing investigation. >> in fact, the wall street journal reported earlier this month that lois learner's attorney said she did give an interview with justice department interviewers within the last six months and she was not given a grant of immunity. it raises the question whether she waived her fifth amendment rights yet again. >> we will talk about that with a panel. thank you. also, fireworks between attorney general eric holder and lieui - lieui -- -- i've read you what you pro

unit to deny them tax exempt status. and it would seem she also inserted herself, which is a big no-no in the appeals process, trying to convince the group within the irs that handles appeals by such organizations to maintain the decisions that these -- that her units had laid out. so we now know how she did that. and that's important, because before it had all been a bit vague. >> so that's direct evidence of what she did personally intervening. it's right there. got it. yes? >> yes. and i think the other thing that mattered is that the camp committee also put out a time line which also maybe provides a little bit of information about motive. what we see is, lots of people and democratic senators, aides to the president, outside groups, all focusing on crossroads gps, and then surprise, surprise, lois lerner focusing on them. so it suggests that the irs was highly could go zant of the political atmosphere and acting in some way on that. >> dan, what caught a lot of people's attention was the use of the word "criminal" as in prosecution. that ratchets up the pressure on ms. lerner, does it not? >> it does indeed. this is not merely abuse of power, but

strengthen its own presence around jerusalem israel has built rabbit on new housing units in settlements around the city raising the ire of palestinian officials last week talks were suspended for god. after the motor buses party fatah. tiny unity pact with hamas which israel the us and europe considered as a parent. actually it was him. stocks on additional conditions which she knows it is welcome. so instead of moving into peace with israel is moving into peace with hamas. destitute even though the tops of prodigal result many hoping to resume lake erie they believe that if both parties grow further apart. this may lead to violent confrontation baltimore has enjoined by parliament of georgia. i meant week we decided that beckett's nine months of talks so much to look at who is invested by john kerry so much determination so much energy summit on what went on was actually the t cells sites failed to agree on the borders of a future palestinian state the palestinians. quite simply wanted an awful and to declare a viable state and they will get a commitment to that. from the israelis in this. this fueled the old suspici

the irs. also conspiracy to defraud the united states. also health care fraud. also wire fraud. wire fraud.ore wire fraud. five counts of that. not to be confused with the five counts of mail fraud or the two counts of perjury or the count of obstruction of an official proceeding or the count of unlawful employment of aliens. the charges all stem from his ownership of a restaurant before he went to congress. prosecutors say he kept two sets of books for the resht and he paid his employees partly in cash to avoid the payroll taxes and they say he lied about it under oath. 20 federal charges is a lot of federal charges. but michael grim says he's not going anywhere. >> we're going to fight tooth and nail until i am fully exonerated. so let me be perfectly clear. i will not abandon my post. or the wonderful people who entrusted me to represent them. i have their backs and i know that they have mine. i will get right back to work, as i always have. with honor and distinction i will serve. and then on top of all that i have an election to win. >> i have an election to win? he does, actually, bec

of federal law to give out an application of a 5o1c group like gps and the irs released their application through investigative unit underwritten by george soros and the irs admitted it. no action taken by the justice department, nobody has ever called and said we need to talk about the release of your confidential documents and the violation of the law that entails. i will be interested to see with the ways and means committee hitter says. it'll be referred to the justice department if they pass it for a criminal referral and frankly i think it is the right thing to do but let's see if eric holder knows what the right thing is to do or the brushes is off as he has done in so many others. jon: republicans are saying one of the charges against her in their view is she relieves private taxpayer information made it public. the irony here it seems to me is democrats on the committee so you cannot have these hearings because that would take private taxpayer information and make it public. so where does it go? >> the application of among others perhaps. the democrats in the committee are in a bad place defending from usi

that draws the ire of history alan mossty not only between china and the united states, but south korea and japan, i should say, china and japan, and south korea and japan barely on speaking terms because of that, and several others issues. obviously the united states wants to bury the hatchett between those two countries because of the issue of north koreaish and it's leader kim jung-un who is still participating in provocative behavior as his father and grandfather before him. they have to come to a response on that. >> the president goes to south korea next, and obviously that is a country reeling from the ferry tragedy. >> right. >> i'm sure he'll handle it well, but how is the president expected to handle that situation? >> reporter: well, white house officials, and it's a great point. you know, south koreans are still reeling in shock, the recovery effort not to say the salvage earth a very sensitive issue. even this morning in the papers here in japan, so we can't expect the president to make some reference to make a vow towards what is going on in their offshore in south korea.

is shifted from the united states citizen without any actual change taking place on the ground and everything done in the united states just like it has been before. i think that the irs should have a tax on -- it should have also whether there should have been a superroyalty paid and perhaps assignment on income grounds because sale of the parts partsd go the same place the income from the sale of the machine goes. so there's all these opportunities the irs had to go after this transsatisfaction,, - transaction, and didn't. my conclusions? i think the irs should do a better job of -- we have the advantages of an expansive investigation. irs should have addressed itself nor this kind of transaction which shifted $8 billion in profits paying $2 billion less in taxes paid, and it's still going on. second of all, i think that congress should address the issue and, i the can simplest way of addressing this is to fix the probably we tried to fix in 1962. at the moment there's an exercise going on, a profit-shifting exercise, under which all of this country, cooler by the g-20, the largest 20 economies of the world, are concern about this kind of profit shifting. number of

the irs. those airlines that did score highly include jet blue, southwest. unitednd continental received worst ratings >>> a teenager who got too close to a train in peru may be making a lot of money for moment of fame. he was so close, that is the conductor's foot kicking him out of the way. according to news reports he signed with a southern california company and this video could earn him from $2 to $16 per view was jared getting 70% of the profits he says the kick didn't hurt and it was a shock more than anything else. >> not a tough way to make a buck. >> yes. >> coming up levis jeans for $5? >> the lucky buyers when we come back. hey. hey. [doorbell rings] what's this? it's u-verse live tv. with at&t u-verse... you can watch live tv from your device. hey. hey. anywhere in your home. [doorbell rings] hey. hey. so you won't miss a minute of the game. call now to get a u-verse bundle for the same great price for 2 years. guaranteed. >>> coming up, a startling fact about south bay teen who stowed aby on a flight to hawaii. >> and are you getting what you pay for

the united states. that is smut mungering? >> what is that? >> smungering. earlier today, the inspector general of the irseleased a report that says there was hatch act violations that were wearing obama buttons and leaning on people. the irs is the most potent form of intimidation. >> basically, this is operating in a culture of obama love and how do you know that the left are truly in control? it's when lawmakers are laughing off a weapon of political coercion, when they don't think it's a big deal. when the government and the media are the same, retribution becomes a gleeful blood sport. i ask each reporter go into a report room. if irs was targeting a planned parenthood, how hard would you work this story? >> they wouldn't sleep at night. >> why are you suggesting they aren't working the story? >> we're the only ones that are doing it, bob. >> they don't think it's a big deal. >> there's nothing there. >> how do you know that? >> why did lois lerner come up with this idea to go after the right? >> if i were sitting in that seat and i had a shot at it, i would too. >> the irs cannot target somebody for

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talking about the citizens united case, and she says this, the supreme court dealt a huge blow, breaking a huge precedent. who is the they? it is the democratic senators who wrote the irs and said do something about this. it is the president of the united states. the state of the union address that year, the president called the supreme court of the state of the union address. they want the irs to fix the problem and she said, so everybody is screaming at us right now to fix it now before the election. she said i cannot do anything right now. she could not do it before the election in 2010, but she could put in place a systematic targeting to fix it the next year, and that is what she did. in the limited e-mails we got, from her, she said this, in the fall of 2010, we will do a c-4 project next year. we need to be cautious so it is not a per se political project. which means what? it was a political project. she tried to hide that fact. guess what -- she got caught. when she got caught, we called her in before this committee. she sat at that table, and the only thing she said, we can put that on the screen, the only thing she said is that statement. the only testimony

the irs is interesting story the american public can put two and two together with the president of the united states, the democrats who owned the senate and the republicans to own a the house that agree the monstrosity has happened and now they have emails linking democrats to go after conservative groups and the irs was wrong were targeted we have to get to the bottom but meanwhile we are our interests and we cannot hold people accountable here the american people do not buy that any more. neil: and when i hear james carville say when the strategizing to leave out of word recovery because people don't buy it, when that is your own troops to say there has to be a better way. that is not good to. >> it is a problem for the president as a politician once you lose the public's trust it is hard to get it back with a wave after wave of scandals or promises weather keep your health care and an essay on the left does not trust the president that is why his numbers have gone down. not every american believes all the conspiracy theories but the a drip and drip drip is a major problem. after this elect

the unsealing of a 20-count indictment against michael grimm. charging him with impeding irs functions, conspiracy to defraud the united states, causing false taxo be filed, mail fraud, wire fraud, health care fraud, perjury, obstruction of an official proceeding and the hiring of undocumented workers. these charges stem from michael grimm's role in managing a restaurant that he owned and operated from 2007 to 2010. >> only moments ago, the congressman defended himself. >> i've gone to know and love most of my constituents. i didn't abandon them. they're not going to abandon me. when things got tough, what did i do? i went to work. i got to work. the proof is there. that's irrefusible. when super storm sandy hit, relentlessly, i gave it my heart and soul to secure $60 billion to help people rebuild their lives. then we find out that flood insurance rates are pushing hard-working families out their home. when all the political experts said it would never get done, my bill was signed by the president to help them, to relieve them. >> let's bring in our chief congressional correspondent dana bash. she's been following this story for us. i take it

president obama pledging continuing support by the united states, offering his condolences and said the two leaders discussed lessons learned from the ire liner mystery but didn't elaborate. mr. obama also taking questions on the big question of ukraine sanctions, as well as the alleged racist comments made by an nba owner of the l.a. clippers. mr. obama seeming to take his time with that, giving a thoughtful response to that. let's talk now with cnn's jim acosta. the wide ranging questions that they addressed during this news conference. jim? >> absolutely, natalie. that is right. and just to start off with flight 370, because it is sort of the big news that overwhelming everything here in malaysia. it was interesting to hear the president at one point say that he believes the malaysian government has been fully fort coming with us, meaning the united states, about what the malaysians know about the whereabouts of that plane, the investigation into the disappearance of that plane. and so it was interesting to hear the president sort of defend the malaysian government in that regard. and he went on to say that, you know, the ocean is a

up to five years for conspiring to defraud the united states, up to three years for fraudulent tax returns and for obstructing and impeding the irshs for employing unauthorized aliens. this looks serious. how serious is this? >> it's incredibly serious. it suggests when he was physically threatening this reporter. he recalled it was stress relating to hurricane sandy. it wasn't hurricane sandy, it was healthalicious. with everything they have in the indictment, you almost have to take out your calculator to figure out the prison exposure. they're talking about major amounts of cash he did not report, cash payments he then made to employees. and in some instances, employees that did not have a legal status. it's a long list of charges, very serious ones. he's coming out firing, claiming he's going to fight it tooth and nail, he's going to be vindicated. his attorneys are accusing the governor of abuse of power. some of that is predictable. but if he's in for a long fight, h eneeds to know they've got plenty, plenty of evidence. for all the tough talk today i'm going to be surprised at some point they don't come hat in hand to the

the irs. it is obvious, bill that the administration detests the supreme court opinion, called citizens uniteds have first amendment rights and in order to diminish the affect on that. they came down hard on conservative political action groups. and it is obvious they bent and twisted the law to do this. what is not obvious is that there is anybody around that is prosecute the people for it because they, the administration control the end prosecution. >> if that is what happens with holder, what about the cop tempt charge in congress. would you give that immunicipality to talk. >> they are great questions. they can give her immunity against her will and if they vote to give her immunicipality. and approval by a federal judge. she will lose the fifth amendment right to remain silent and refuses to testify, she can go to jail. but if they don't give her immunity and they ask her to testify and she refuses and that hold her in contempt of congress. eric holder hills is held in contempt of congress for refusing to turn over fast and furious documents. >> you can see the investigation. and the law

the united states. and this next one, not a smidgen of corruption -- talking about the irs targeting scandal. a lawyer now for lois lerner wants to address you, the house, before a vote to hold lerner in contempt of congress. this is what he wrote, holding ms. lerner in contempt could not only be unfair and indeed un-american, it would be flatly inconsistent with the fifth amendment as interpreted by the supreme court. un-american? >> what a joke. they've had ten months to try to make their case that she didn't violate, give up her fifth amendment rates. the case was made that she did give up those rights. we brought it before the house oversight committee. we debated it and voted on it. it's going to the floor very soon. you think we're going to put her attorney out in front of the floor of the house? give me a break. that's not the american way and that's not what's going to happen. >> i want you to say what you think the attorney might actually say in front of congress, but it would be unprecedented, would it not, six sets of astronauts have spoken before congress, 48 heads of state. but s

the citizens united case and she says this. the supreme court overturning a 100 year precedent. they want the irs to fix the problem. other democratic senators, senator lemmon, senator durbin and frankly the president of united remembers in january 25 caught up the state of the union address. so everybody is screaming to fix before the election i can't do anything right now. she couldn't do anything in 2010, but she could put in place the limited number of e-mails we've got from lois lerner. he said this to her colleagues in fall 2010. we will do the c-cor project next. we need to be cautious, which means what? she tried to hide that fact. guess what? she got caught. we called her in front of this committee and the only thing she said -- the only thing she said and the only testimony we have from lowest lerner is that test monday ratepayer. the american people know it's all. they said yesterday everyone knows it all. the only remedy we have get to the truth is to test everything tool at our disposal to try to get lois lerner to testify answer the questions. that's the only remedy we have and remember this, the only r

in the omnibus to prohibit the irs from targeting groups for additional scrutiny based on their ideological beliefs, and to prohibit the irs from targeting citizens of the united states for exercising any right guaranteed under the first amendment. it also seeks to eliminate language requiring the videos produced by the irs to be appropriately reviewed. requesting a billion dollars more, eliminating prohibitions against targeting that were negotiated by this committee, and proposing a new rule for the 501(c)(4)s before investigations by congress and the department of justice have been completed will not build trust in the irs, the department of the treasury, the federal government, or over all government. so, i think that if you were to explain how the inappropriate criteria came into use, how they were allowed to be used for years, that's what we need to bring back some trust in the irs, and make sure the irs can administer the tax code in a partial and nonpartisan manner. similar to the department's 2012, '13 and '14 budget requests, the department is seeking discretionary spending for the irs above the spending caps by relying on discretionary cap adjustmen

in the omnibus to prohibit the irs from targeting groups for additional scrutiny based on their ideological beliefs, and to prohibit the irs from targeting citizens of the united states for exercising any right guaranteed under the first amendment. it also seeks to eliminate language requiring the videos produced by the irs to be appropriately reviewed. requesting a billion dollars more, eliminating prohibitions against targeting that were negotiated by this committee, and proposing a new rule for the 501(c)(4)s before investigations by congress and the department of justice have been completed will not build trust in the irs, the department of the treasury, the federal government, or over all government. so, i think that if you were to explain how the inappropriate criteria came into use, how they were allowed to be used for years, that's what we need to bring back some trust in the irs, and make sure the irs can administer the tax code in a partial and nonpartisan manner. similar to the department's 2012, '13 and '14 budget requests, the department is seeking discretionary spending for the irs above the spending caps by relying on discretionary cap adjustmen

the irs getting ready to steal your refund? a new call for answers on outrageous behavior. and congressman elijah cummings had enough of the irs hearings. >> i am a member of the united states

the irs getting ready to steal your refund? a new call for answers on outrageous behavior. and congressman elijah cummings had enough of the irs hearings. >> i am a member of the united states of america. i'm tired of this. >> and now we may know why. a shocking report, it all starts on the "kelly file" right now. >>> breaking tonight, exclusive new video from inside the western ranch showdown as violence nearly i results in a showdown with the government and tonight, we're learning that this fight may be far from over. welcome to the "kelly file" everyone. i'm megyn kelly. the war between a rancher, supporters and the feds on the other side first gaining attention last wednesday with this tasering video. by saturday, it had come to a heads. cowboys and average americans and militia members on one side coming face-to-face with heavily-armed agents, federal and local. the rarcnchers determined to ta back mr. bundy's cattle seized by the government which had two court orders on its side. one way or another the ranchers were determined to get the cattle back however, and take a look at our exclusive video. >> let's talk. if they do this, not going to hold them back. >> hey, li

the books just ahead. nypd dispense a controversial police unit officers responded within communities in our city reaction to the move coming up. the congressman ron paul is at odds with the irs the irs demands that is a nonprofit group plc led the club claims that the intent of the demented maybe to intimidate dollars more on that later. a fan when i got sixty seven boston to dc to watch tv clemency denied earlier this week chelsea manning formerly a friendly man will face was predicted to be a years long appeals process. in august the twenty six year old was sentenced to thirty five years in prison for violating the espionage act and other offences after a weekend thousands of classified government documents to which the greeks band's new players have outlined a few angles they plan to pursue with the us army court of appeals among them the legal pre trial punishment mis use of the espionage act of a confrontation of information and the selective prosecution of whistleblowers. there are a whole host of issues that go. not only two that were inserted in the bigger picture of the keys the weather service members in general have the opportunity for a fair trial. can they spend

the irs got bonuses in fiscal 2012. 2/3 of them. >> whoever heard of working for the government and getting a bonus? >> here's the thing. when the president of the united states goes out and says you didn't build that bridge, we built the bridge. think about the way this country is changing fundamentally. we're in a situation right now where government controls everything. where the government controls your money. where the people that work for the government think you work for them. >> well, i think that does turn the idea of public servant on its head. julie, back to you. are you actually saying then that people in government shouldn't even be able to earn bonuses? government workers? >> again, i don't even know what's going on today, but i side with charlie on this one. >> yeah. >> i don't even know what's going on. some kool-aid. >> or where we're doing the show from. if this is the real julie, they told me to change the pronunciation of your name on the show, i just found out today i was pronouncing it wrong. maybe it's a different person. >> for like a decade you've been pronouncing it wrong. but let me finish my point. listen, bonuses should be

are continuing their battle against lois lerner, the irs official at the center of the agency's alleged targeting a political groups. and i are us unit used keywords to single out certain political groups, most of which were right wing. on thursday, a house committee voted to hold learner in contempt for refusing to testify at two panel hearings. a day earlier, another house panel voted to ask the justice department to consider criminal charges against learner. tosident obama paid tribute the civil rights movement and president lyndon johnson thursday during an event at the johnson presidential library in austin, texas. obama hailed the passage of social programs like medicare as well as the voting rights act of 1965, which was gutted last year by the supreme court. the event honored the 50th anniversary of johnson signing the civil rights act on july 2, 1964. >> i reject such cynicism because i have lived out a promise of lbj's efforts. because michelle has lived out the legacy of those efforts. because my daughters have lived out the legacy of those efforts. because i and millions of my generation were in a position to take the bat

the irs garnishing their wages. i don't know why they are giving bonuses to begin with. the irs will be sending letters. and thank you, eric. thank you. sounds like employers in the united states have a trust problem according to an on line poll to the american psychological association. half of u.s. worker ares feel their employers are open and up front with them. 32 percent say their employer is not always truthful and a quarter don't trust their employer. >> we'll bring in melissa francis on the fox business network. thank you for joining us. >> sounds like people don't trust the employers. >> they talked to 1500 workers who work for a larger company. and the one that was most staggering. 24 percent don't trust the company they work for at all. a lot has to do with the ddigit age. >> there is cameras in your own office. to workers it feels like the information is one sided. they know what you are up to but you don't know what is going on with management. it is eating away with the workers. how does this toy in to our own paychecks. >> people have seen corporate profits go along and recover since the recession. >> they have seen stock prices and pages haven't kept pac

the exact number. my recollection is that there are more than a hundred million tax filing units. they provide tax i.d. numbers currently to the irs. >> our we going to protect them? >> sir, we share very much that concern. the importance of and privacy of the information is a high priority. the irs has been very vigilant about that. over its history. we all, i think recognize, as you are suggesting, sir, that recent events in the private sector, for example, underscore the importance of the point you're making the privacy and security are key, but we don't think that we are taking risks with privacy and security in the case of these recordings. >> well, but under this law given those numbers to your employer. now we just give them to the irs when we file our tax return. how are you going to protect those numbers? >> many employers to have the social security numbers. typically they have the social security numbers of their employees. now, we recognize that there is a legitimate balancing here and that we agree with your concern that privacy and security of the personal data be treated with the utmost care and seriousness. these r

the united states. there was no trouble at the irs. >> you're saying no corruption, none? >> there was some bone-headed decisions. >> not mass corruption? >> not mass corruption. not even a smidgen. >> what about a smidgen of stone walling? the white house is stone walling left and right. we haven't heard. . congress has to act, unless congress acts, the white house and the department of justice won't. people won't know what happened at the irs. >> there are checks and balances they're looking to install in this process. and certainly we're going to be asking bill o'reilly, he's on his way over here today to discuss that and much more. i'm sure he will have some comments about that. >> yes. just amazing that the president said a smidgen of corruption, that the person takes the fifth. we'll move ahead. we'll discuss that with a guy who's really tall. i'm jealous he's in my shot. we have a huge show today. >> did you hear from charles krauthammer said last night? he said the administration won on benghazi. what does mike rogers think about that? he sits down with brian next.