united u.s. department of defense on its computers and according to its boosters at least it whistleblowers best friend but how whistle friendly is the intercept once you get past it's highly real and public image apparently not at all especially in the recent case of terry all barry a former f.b.i. agent prosecuted for leaking national security information to the intercept joining tire of winter earlier was john kiriakou a former cia officer and whistleblower to discuss the case and more. done thank you very much always a pleasure having you with us in mind thank you recently we've seen whistleblower the f.b.i.'s terry obery he step forward minnesota was targeted through the espionage act. for passing along national defense information to reporters allegedly at the intercept you know subsided and cheap but see read stated news reports have suggested that the process prosecution may be linked to stories published by the intercept we did not discuss anonymous sources the use of the espionage act a person who was a blower seeking to shed light on matters of vital public concern is an outrage now j

of the five, former prosecutor, and fox news legal analyst. for the defense, former u.s. attorney who worked at the department of justice, with james comey, and former united states department of justice assistant chief deputy. and over here, at the other table are our legal analysts who i will be going to for details on all of the charges, former u.s. attorney and trial attorney. okay. let's get right to the first set of possible charges against james comey -- comey involving his handling of the hilary clinton e-mail investigation. the charges we are talking about are obstruction of justice and perjury. let's get some insight now from you about those charges and then we will debate them. >> perjury is pretty well known the traditional elements are knowingly false statement under oath in a proceeding whether before congress, a grand jury, obstruction is more open ended. it's one of the prosecutor's best friends. traditionally the elements include falsification of documents concealing evidence or making a false statement. but it also has a broader category, the interfering with the proper administration of law. the key to obstruction is showing a corrupt in

between maybe the of language with the united state department department of , defense, white house, this is possibly why there has not been a better response to this. i have been studying u.s.-turkish relationships for my phd since the end of row or -- and of world war ii -- end of world war ii, is a serious crisis. the last thing i can remember is the 2003 intervention in iraq and that is winter he did not allow the united states to use military bases to invade iraq did we now have troops threatening to invade. it is a new level. in response to mr. trump withdrawing american forces. i think it is impossible to provide an answer. what is lear and one year plus is that mr. trump is determined not to become -- or to become the un-obama. that would mean in my judgment, we would not withdraw our forces from syria. doing that we are going to be in iraq or many years to come. afghanistan for many years to come. i suspect in syria as well. this president is not going to want the responsibility of a public relations disaster for a precipitous withdrawal from syria. even though it is not clear to me kly what is the strategic purpose her an the narrowly focused mission of isis of ma

william castle acting -- department of defense acting general counsel to senator schumer and mcconnell, it was talk act the extent of u.s. involvement. to quote the letter, the united states provides the defense articles and services including air to air refueling, certain intelligence support military advice including advice regarding best practices for reducing the risk of civilian casualties. is this the extent of our involvement? >> it's the extent of our involvement with respect to the support of the coalition's efforts in the civil war. we obviously have provided different support. >> we provide political support and engagement. yes, it's an accurate accounting of the military support and intel support for the coalition. >> what's a ballpark personnel figure we have right now involved with the yemen? >> i believe we have roughly 50 personnel in saudi arabia but they're conducting a variety of activities including i think largely helping on the ballistic missile threat. >> thank you. >> ambassador, i was late to the hearing. we schedule hearings here at the same time. i had a couple of other hearings to attend. you may have done this already. could you lay out

william castle -- the department of defense acting general counsel to senator schumer and mcconnell was talking about the extent of u.s. involvement and to quote the letter, the united states provides the defense articles and services including air to air refuelling and the military advice, including the law of armed conflict and best practices for reducing the risk of civilian casualties. is this the extent of our involvement? >> in extent of our involvement with respect to the coalition's efforts and the civil war. we provide different support with respect to ct operations using different authorities. >> ambassador satterfield? >> we provide a variety of humanitarian as well as political support and engagement, but yes, it's an accurate accounting of our intel support for the coalition. >> what's a ballpark personnel figure that we have involved with yemen? >> we have roughly 50 personnel in saudi arabia, but they're conducting a variety of activities including largely helping on the ballistic missile threat. >> ambassador satterfield, i was late to the hearing and we schedule hearings at the same time and i had a couple to attend prior to this one. could you just