executive orders and repercussions back and forth when somalis were perhaps on their way to the unitedstates and stopped and started again. what has that done to the country? >> when i was down there, people felt really abandoned. they felt abandoned by the united states. they felt abandoned by the kenyans. and about 200 of the refugees there had been flown to nairobi, awaiting flights to the united states. and they were canceled. and i think the important thing to remember is that these are refugees who have been there since the 90s and have been waiting for resettlement to the united states anywhere from six to nine years. and so this was really heartbreaking for them. but then this decision from the 9th circuit came down, and i was just at the transit center here in nairobi a couple of days ago, and they've started flying back to the united states again. and the 200 who were sent back to the camps to await flights have now been brought back to nairobi, and they've started flying out today, back to the united states. >> sreenivasan: all right, eyder peralta, of npr joining us vie skype fro