many canadian businesses will tell you having universa payer system, simplifies life for them and reduces the cost of doing business. on the other hand, we can't fool people and not tell you that the growth of -- the sheer growth of health care budgets in canada is a serious concern to all senior governments. health care budgets over a long period of time have been groving faster than our economy. now mind you you make, jane, would i make this observation. i know the health care system of the united states is very different than the health care system of canada. all western developed countries have variants of a mixed health care system. my observation would be that in spite of these various differences, the problems that aflekt vi afflict virtually all of them are the same, the cost and keep groping fast r than the ability of the western country to sustain nick growth. why is that? one is the fact of the heart is that nowadays we can do so much in terms of raek, so much in terms of curing people and extending life. in fact, if we have an unlimited amount supply of money, we can do an unl