look, your president, donald trump, said he's for universal health insurance. u for universal health insurance? so, he's such a screwball that he jams his own party, and i think that creates opportunities for democrats. it helps democrats find their voice. >> it's one thing, robert, for democrats, progressives, to wait for him to make a mistake, and to your point, i suspect there will be many of those opportunities, but it's something very different to be proactive, to have your own plan for how you're going to navigate the next four years. what ought the democratic plan, the opposition plan, the progressive plan look like? >> well, i think there are so many opportunities to split the republicans. if you look at the republican party as a whole, trump's inner circle, they hate each other, you know? they don't get along with each other. bannon and priebus and pence, they don't get along with each other. they're mistrustful of trump's family. trump is at odds with his own cabinet. the trump white house keeps undercutting the republicans in congress. and that create

texas has 22% of children with no health insurance. we had universalfor kids in vermont for years. it is a terrible idea put together by people that love free markets but don't know anything about health care. >> other items on the kellyanne conway list, which doesn't mean it is on the trump list, but create health savings accounts. >> that's nice. >> those are fine for small items but don't work when you are trying to decide whether to have a heart operation. >> four or $5,000 or having a tax credit of $5,000 per person. health care in this country costs an average of 10,000 plus per capita. if you have a family of four, if you are going to buy insurance, do anything, someone, somewhere has to come up with $40,000. having a health savings account for $5,000 or a tax credit for 5,000, $6,000 sounds nice. you could then have a press conference and say we are providing insurance for everyone but you are actually providing insurance for no one other than those in the upper middle class and above who can afford it. >> we will have to leave it there. it are

congresswoman debbie dingle of michigan, whose husband, retired congressman john dingle, sponsored universal health insuranceislation every year since entering congress back in 1955. also yevgeny memed joins us. congresswoman, you've been speaking to your constituents about this issue of health care. what do they say to you about the effort to repeal obamacare? >> this was real what i said on the floor of the house this week. i don't even go into starbucks. i can't order my hot chocolate before three people come up to me and say what's going to happen to me? for many watching on msnbc this morning, this is a war of words. but when you are out just talking to real people, they are scared to death. in michigan alone weather the support of a republican governor, helping michigan reduce the number of uninsured by 50%. it covered close to 700,000 people and they're scared to death. i had a black bishop at a roundtable i did last week that said black men didn't is a choice, they didn't go to a doctor until they ended up in the emergency room and many of them died. we need to figure this out. >> yevgeny, this is a

i mean, president-elect trump has said that there will be basically universal health insurance, and every -- the government will provide it, he said. >> yeah, and he did say, mike pence said that people who really he need it, who can't afford it will. but the question is more broadly how are people who currently have it under obamacare are going to keep it. the answer is they don't have an answer. >> tbd. >> exactly. >> the tbd health care plan. dana bash, thank you, appreciate it. obama, of course, causing a whole lot of fire works on capitol hill as president-elect trump top cabinet picks faced tough questions in confirmation hearings. we heard a strong charge from the senate's top democrat, schumer accusing the transition team of trying to rush the confirmation process. >> these past two weeks we have seen repeated efforts from the trump transition aided and abet ed by senate republicans to jamb through nominees in a way that hides their views from the american people. >> today among four trump cabinet nominees faced questions on capitol hill, congressman tom price, republican from fge

. >> reporter: --provide near- universal health insurance to americans. democrats were jubilant. in obama's inner circle, like bob kocher-- one of the law's primary architects-- celebrated their victory at the white house. >> it was a moment of total joy. we felt like we'd accomplished something hard and amazing and important that would go down in history as being an important step forward in american healthcare. and the president felt that way, and i think we all celebrated and, and felt like the hardest part was perhaps behind us. >> reporter: since harry truman, every democratic president has dreamed about universal coverage. jonathan oberlander, a health- policy historian at the university of north carolina at chapel hill, says obama succeeded in winning over health care interest groups that had fought previous reform attempts. but the bill became a flashpoint for bigger ideological battles. >> in key respects, it was a policy success, but it was also always a political failure since 2010. and that political failure reflects that partisan polarization, which democrats and the

universities. [applause] provided health insurance to over five million more californians. raised the minimum wage. [applause] reduced prison overcrowding and reformed our system of crime and punishment. that's really significant. [applause] made california a world leader in the fight against climate change. [applause] passed a water bond. built up a rainy day fund. and closed a huge $27 billion deficit. [applause] and during the last seven years, california has reduced the unemployment rate from 12.1% to 5.2% and created almost 2.5 million jobs. [applause] and that's not all. but this morning it is hard for me to keep my thoughts just on california. the recent election and inauguration of a new president have shown deep divisions across america. while no one knows what the new leaders will actually do, there are signs that are disturbing. we have seen the bald assertion of alternative facts. whatever those are. we have heard the blatant attacks on science. familiar signposts of our democracy, truth, civility, working together, have been obscured or swept aside. but on satu

he was for universal health care and he said that to his audiences and to his rallies ian he got big cheers when he called for everybody to have health insurance, everybody to have health care. then he stopped saying it quite so loudly as he became the republican nominee. but he never quite went back on it. i think the republican party kind of convinced itself that, oh, well, maybe he is a republican after all and i think to the extent that they did convince themselves of that, they are in for the rudest civil awake engs. >> my daughter at hopkins, she is a junior and she was buried under books for months and would not return my phone calls and declined me on face time. i instagramed it. the one time she came up from air from her studying, oh, my gosh, i got three texts. bernie sanders is coming to hopkins and that was a packed house. he has got the young people and he's got the ideas and he clearly still has the energy. >> there is no doubt. we need to stop laughing at candidates. it's crazy. amazing. >> what do you make of donald trump? we have talked all of the things donald trump has done before he has even gotten sworn in. before he has g

universities. [applause] we have provided health insurance to over 5 million californians. [applause] we have raise the minimum wage. [applause] we have reduced prison overcrowding and, most important , we have reformed the system of crime and punishment. [applause] it made california world leader in the fight against climate change. we passed the water bond, building up a rainy day fund, closing at $27 billion deficit. [applause] and during the last seven years california has reduced the unemployment rate from 12.1 to 5.2%. [applause] by the way, i say california, but not us. hopefully it didn't cost too much interference. anyway, two point 5 million jobs. almost 2.5 million jobs a been created, and that's not all. but this morning it is hard for me to keep my thoughts just on california. the recent election and inauguration of a new president has shown deep divisions across america. upon no one knows what the new leaders will actually do, there are signs that are disturbing. we have seen the bold assertion of alternative fact's, whatever those are. we have heard the blata

universities. [applause] gov. brown: we provided health insurance to over 5 million californians. [applause] we have raised the minimum wage. [applause] gov. brown: we reduced prison overcrowding, and most important we reformed the system out crime and punishment -- of crime and punishment which is significant. we make california a world leader in the fight against climate change. [applause] gov. brown: we passed a water fund,we built a rainy day and we closed a $27 billion deficit. [applause] gov. brown: during the last seven years, california has reduced the unemployment rate from 12.1% to 5.2%. [applause] way, i saidby the california created that, not us, we helped a little bit, i hope. anyway, 2.5 million jobs, almost -- two point jobs 5 million jobs and this morning it is hard to keep my thoughts just on california. the recent election of the new president has shown the divisions across america. no one knows what the new leaders will actually do, there are signs that are disturbing, we have seen the bold assertion of alternative facts, whatever those are. we have heard the bl

insurance for everybody. that is a quote. republicans have for decades fought to lift government involvement in the healthcare system. but recently they're talking about providing universal access to health insurance. president-elect trump says -- tells the post that there was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. that's not going to happen with us. he says the plan is nearly finished and he will unveil it soon alongside paul ryan and the senate majority leader. the president-elect tells the post that his plan will not cut medicare benefits too older americans and he says he will drive down drug prices by forcing pharmaceutical companies to negotiate with the government. under the current law or the current medicare law, insurance companies negotiate drug prices for the government. more on that in just a moment. president-elect trump over the weekend made news on several other topics. they include tweets targeting the c.i.a. director john brennan and one of america's most prominent civil rights leaders, john lewis from georgia. the president-elect today marks martin luther king day by meeting with civil rights icon's oldest son, martin luther king i

together to increase by tens of billions of dollars for schools and universities [applause] to over 5 million californians extend health insurance. [applause] we raised the minimum wage. [applause] and we reduced prison overcrowding and we've reformed the system of punishment and that is significant. [applause] we made california a world leader in the fight against crime unchanged we buildup the rainy day fund in close to $27 billion deficit. [applause] during the of last seven years california has reduced the unemployment rate from 12.1 from 5.2%. [applause] by the way i said california created that. not us. two 1/2 million jobs it is hard to keep my thoughts with the recent election and inauguration across america there are signs the are disturbing the alternative fax whenever those are we heard that attack of the democracies of working together but in cities across the country to witness what is stirring in the of land and into the hearts of the americans are as strong as ever. [applause] so as we reflect on the status of our state we should go in a much broader context we must prepare for very uncertain times with those prin

when president-elect trump promises insurance for everybody, how does that square with longstanding republican opposition to universal health care measures? >> it doesn't. >> sure it does. when you say insurance for everybody, you are talking about access to affordable health care. you are not saying -- this is the translation that goes on in this town all the time. this means -- >> you are not saying insurance for everybody. you are saying chance of insurance. >> the chance of insurance for everybody. what you hear in this town is, that means the government is going to give it to everybody. not so. that's not what he is saying. >> he said the government will pay for it. that's what donald trump said. >> what's going to happen here is as we move through this debate, which we all acknowledge is complex, we're going to get into these debates endlessly as he says, a, and some congressional subcommittee is dealing with subsection c. >> that knows what's going on and corrects him. >> the goal is affordable access for everybody. >> they don't have the time. donald trump has said -- i think rightly so, actually -- that you can't j

insurance for everybody. >> he wants universal coverage in the health care plan. do you agree? t to the heart of the debate. who and how many will get health care insurance. top officials have been very specific in their description. it's about access. not universal coverage. >> we want to make sure people are covered, right? we want to do it in a way that brings down costs. the idea is to repeal and replace with the idea that everyone will be able to get coverage. we want to make sure they have access to coverage and want to make it more affordable. >> a message trump clearly diverged from in his remarks and that could come back to bite republicans in the future. as you can see, the comments about universal health care and if you think that is doable with the replace package. >> i think we can do better than the current system. that's the point. >> when he joins us now from capitol hill, the point of this is hhs. what are you hearing about where he stands on it? >> the most interesting dynamic of all with a long time house guy. he hez close relationships. he has been holed up p

about health care where he -- get health insurance and republican lawmakers say, you know, access to health insurance not going to promise universal coverage. maybe to translate trump's rhetoric to republican lawmakers, maybe smooth over the rough edges but the gaps. >> the infrastructure for the president i think for paul ryan. and down here for president trump. so, in those areas where trump and ryan overlap they're going to get things done very quickly i think. but there are disagreements in priority. >> dickerson: bob schieffer has joined us, we're also going to see, maybe next couple of weeks, a supreme court nomination from donald trump. what do you think that will do to an already busy washington? >> schieffer: we won't see any joining together here. because whoever donald trump picks is going to be controversial for all the obvious reasons, we don't need to state them here. that is something that the nation is split on, the issues that have to be divided by the court, women's issues, all of that. constitutional issues, there is strong disagreement. whoever he picks i think is going to be a difficult line. >> there are some

universal insurance and it's very affordable. you may likes why those systems. in general, the value of health care insurance is twofold. number 1 -- it's all about financial security. so making sure that if you half to go to the hospital and have a $100,000 thatosts it does not send you into medical bankruptcy. people before such episodes happen their peace of mind instance of security that they do not have to worry about if what if i have a stroke tomorrow and i cannot afford to pay for it? secondly come i think there is some evidence that insurance coverage itself helps to improve health. there are some studies that it helps to reduce mortality i think it's pretty common sense that if you provide free access to preventive care, things like mammograms,: cancer screenings screenings, that will have many effects in the future where you will start to see lower incidence of cancer and things like that. say thats safe to socialized medicine is not going to the part of the replacement plan that republicans put forward here. you talked about what needs to be in those plans. what are some of the key concepts that republicans

president-elect's agenda, saying it straight forward, he made it clear, ryan talks about universal, if you will, access to health care insurance, donald trump is talking about everyone, having insurance, and it is quite a different statement, quite a different perspective, and pursuit, what do you think the result will be? >> think it will be much closer to what donald trump wants. you know they have to work through details and differences, but you know donald trump has the major mega-phone, he is speaking for i think the american people. you know, he is being aggressive, he is going to want to get these things done, and you know, if the house or senate start moving in a very different direction, he will got on his twitter, have a press conference, go to a rally or whatever, he will i think he will have a lot of clout with congress. to get them to do what he wants them to do. lou: right, and you know, that winning thing. that he started to talk about from the outset, congress seems to like that winning thing. that is a powerful if you will, incentive to realign their perspectives with his. pete hoekstra thank you. >> than than

a professor of public health at johns hopkins university, says there are definite health benefits to having coverage. >> for the individual, unquestionably, people with an insurance card in their pocket are healthier and over the long term have a better and longer life than someone that doesn't have an insurance card. >> reporter: one of the reasons republicans opposed this medicaid expansion: they say it's been far too expensive for the health outcomes that have been produced. >> well, health care is expensive. people in private insurance plans spend even more than is the case here. but this way they can get preventive care. they can get their diabetes treated. yes, that's more expensive-- but they will be healthier. >> say "ahhhhh". >> ahhhhh. >> reporter: steve ochsner and his wife, melonie, credit the affordable care act with helping keep steve alive during his battle with throat cancer. they're open to changes in the law, including paying a premium or volunteering to keep their medicaid coverage. >> reporter: you'd be okay? >> we'd be okay with it. and i know that there are a lot of people that wouldn't. but we'd be okay with it. we just would. >> reporter:

on health insurance, does he mean universal coverage? that requires government inkrein ittive and a lot of money. he gives these statements. he has said, i don't have the plan ready. to congressman price credit during the repeals debate if congress, he was one of the republicans who said i have some plans. now, they do not get to universal coverage pr acknowledgment says. they don't have as much government roam. it's much more market based. if trump has a plan that covers everybody or just about everybody that is different from his own healthing is's plan, this is a part of the confusion as we await this proposal. >> the timing of any kind of replacement is critical. >> well, it's got to happen right away. donald trump has made that very clear and politically he's absolutely right about that. because to sanjay's point about destabilizing the medical community, you are destabilizing the american population. have you 18 million people who have health ens now who are afraid they're going to lose it. you have people with pre existing conditi

insurance for everybody. >> senator, the president-elect saying he wants universal coverage and his health care plan, is thatagree with? trump's comments cut to the heart of the health care debate, who and how many will get health care insurance in? top gop officials have been specific in their description. it's about access, not universal coverage. >> yes, we want to bed but in a way to bring down costs, so the idea is to repeal and replace concurrently. >> reporter: the idea everyone would be able to get coverage? >> we want everybody to have access to coverage and make it more affordable. >> reporter: a message trump diverged from in his rashes and could come back to bite republicans in the future. >> if you've seen the president-elect's comments about universal health care, is that doable with your package? >> we can do better than the current system and that's the point. >> phil mattingly joins us from capitol hill. the point person in all of this is tom price, his pick to run hh, s. where does he stand on it? >> reporter: he's a long time house guy, a member of congress, very close relationships with c

universal insurance. >> his goal is to get health care. that is his goal. he will fight tooth and nail to get it.nd use his skill set as a successful businessman to drive costs down, to create more plan options and doctor options. >> the house and senate took a procedural step last week to begin the repeal of obamacare. republican leaders are facing questions about the replacement plan. nancy pelosi says what the gop is doing will be disastrous. >> what are they doing in the bill? overturning the affordable care act. undermining the health, security and financial stability of america's working families and defunding planned parenthood. >> the president-elect also issued a warning to his fellow republicans saying, quote, the congress can't get cold feet because the people won't let that happen. mr. trump is waiting to roll out the plan until his nominee for health and human services is confirmed. >> harry nelson is joining us this morning. from obamacare to trump care, why you should care. california i would say has the most to lose in all of this. what is the answer, why should we care? >> i thin

health insurance. jay wolfson is professor of public health and medicine at the university of south florida.professor, thank you forjoining us. is obamacare going to die at death afterjanuary is obamacare going to die at death after january 20 7 is obamacare going to die at death afterjanuary 20? i think the date obamacare might die a death. there is lots of sword waving. what obamacare is lots of sword waving. what obamaca re has offered is lots of sword waving. what obamacare has offered americans is something they both want. they both wa nt something they both want. they both want americans to avoid having pre—existing conditions precluding them from getting care, they want to allow 26 —year—olds to continue to get coverage under their parents‘ posit —— policies, they want pharmaceutical costs to be reasonable for elderly citizens, they want more fraud control, they wa nt they want more fraud control, they want more quality assurance. what the republicans don't want is the mandate. they also don't want the inconsistencies that were built into this programme that the democrat said, "we wil

universal access to health care. the phrases suggests a more modest number of people would be covered than president trump's insurance for everybody. speaker ryan says people should have the ability to buy affordable health care, but the government should not make people do something. >>> we continue to follow breaking news about the immigration crackdown. this is a live look at philadelphia international airport where several detainees are expected to be released. more protests also planned there this afternoon. our live coverage continues in just a moment. >>> also, changes on the regional rails. happening today, new schedules take effect. ahead here, how they could impact your commute. >>> president trump's administration says the travel ban order for people from certain muslim majority countries is in effect. despite the stay issued by a federal judge last night, at philadelphia international airport more protests expected today. five passengers were detained after their flight from the middle east arrived after the president signed his executive order. one has already been released. >>> here is a live view outsi

universal health care? lower prescription drug costs? make sure people don't have outrageous deductibles? you just don't throw 20 million people off health insurance policy. you don't privatize medicare. >> if that repeal happens in the real world, if that repeal happens, will you and other democrats support piecemeal, step-by-step reforms than to put back some things included in bow b obama care. by the way, george, the vast majority of the american people agree with me and many others. you don't repeal the affordable care act without a replacement. republicans have had six years to come up with a replacement. they got nothing. sensible people have to work today. to answer your question, do we do away with protecting t american people with pre -- to make sure that if you have an illness, you can get insurance? do we make sure gnat young people stay on their parents' health insurance? make sure that there are no cap ifs you're dealing with cancer? and you deal with pre-existing conditions. it goes without saying those patient protections have got stay in place. >> let me go back to the russia issue. a lot of democrats are disturbed with the fbi di

the president-elect is vowing also insurance for everybody to replace obamacare. sounds like universal health care. how is he going to do it? four days away from his inauguration. let's begin with sarah murray outside trump tower in new york. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. donald trump's fraught relationship with the u.s. intelligence community escalated further when he got in a bit of a war of words with outgoing cia director john brennan. trump even taking to twitter to say was this the leaker of fake news? donald trump taking to twitter to suggest outgoing cia director john brennan leaked unsubstantiated personal and financial information that could be damaging to trump. >> there is no basis for mr. trump to point fingers at the intelligence community for leaking information that was already available publicly. >> reporter: trump's charge coming hours after brennan appeared on national television arguing the president-elect doesn't understand the critical threat russia poses. >> i think he has to recognize his words do have impact and can have very positive impact or they can be

universal coverage very popular. idea of requiring the people that don't have health insurance purchase it, unpopular. tough to have one without the other. do you have to have that big insurance pool in order to allow for coverage for pre-existing conditions? so it is not clear how republicans are going to threads that needle. but it is certainly something that they're working on right now. >> doug, avenue question. little bit confusing. i saw in this number of tweets from the president-elect, and from, you know, talking about the republicans, decided to under cut part of the ethics investigators, president-elect donald trump tweeted out he did not like that at all. members of his own party. what is going on? >> listen, big divide in the republican party. this is the office of congressional ethics. and, to be fair, there are a loft democrats, a lot of republicans, that don't like the way that this office works. it was set up back in 2,008. there is some bipartisan concensus perhaps something should change there. republicans, though, kind of on their own, decided to just more or less eliminate it, or m

among republicans, including trump, on how they talk about health care law and whether it should ensure insure everyone. you want to provide universal access. donald trump says you will you cover everyone? speaker ryan: donald trump says he will cover everyone. anna: you will cover everyone. speaker ryan: universal access is how we see it. we don't believe in the mandate. first of all, i don't believe the mandate is constitutional, but we don't believe in mandating this. we believe in giving everybody the resources for buying affordable health care coverage. , including people with pre-existing conditions. if you choose not to do that, we are not going to have the government make you do something. we see it differently, and we want to make sure that everybody has the choice and the resources to make the choice to buy affordable coverage. that is why we are making sure we get all this right. jake: let's move onto another thing you guys say you are going to do, tax reform, which you said in your speech on wednesday that tax reform means a broader base, lower rates, and upset lobbyists. ,peaker ryan: so that leaked too. anna: basically

what sounds a lot like universal health care as thousands rallied to save obamacare, trump told "the washington post" his plan to replace the health care law would include insurance for everybody, even those who can't pay for it but did not reveal any specifics of the plan that appeared to conflict with the views of many republicans. >>> preparations for inauguration day are in full swing. the bands got a chance to try out their songs for friday's festivity and members of the military served as stand-ins for the president-elect, the soon-to-be first lady melania trump and the future vice president and his w part in a mock swearing in ceremony. >> abc will be there for the real thing providing nonstop live coverage of the inauguration of donald trump as the 45th president all day friday starting at 7:00 a.m. eastern time. >>> president obama admits this has been an unusual transition and one of the areas of sharp disagreement has been over israel. the outgoing president insists allowing a u.n. vote that was critical of israel was the right move. obama told "60 minutes" the jewish state is pursuing a policy unlikely to lead to peace. >> the pace of settlements duri

crisis, is putting herself through school at the university of michigan campus here while working part time, and learned to live without health insurancer mom lost her job in 2012. >> that's when it became like, wow, we don't have anything. >> reporter: but three years ago the state of michigan threw her and thousands more a life line under the affordable care act, republican governor rick snyder opted to expand the pool of people eligible for medicaid in a program called healthy michigan. it opened up to people ages 19 to 64 for individuals earning $16,000 or less and families earning $33,000 or less per year. suddenly it wasn't just people at or below the poverty level who could enroll in medicaid and despite the supreme court's ruling that states weren't bound to take part, 16 states that have taken the expansion have republican governors. >> it wasn't the generic expansion. we actually added requirements for personal responsibility and wellness on the front end. >> governor snyder is now fighting to keep federal funding for the expansion. since launching the program in 2014, more than 600,000 people have enrolled in healthy michiga

things that were announced as going to reduce the cost of health care, universal coverage and so on didn't. i think we need to deal with insurance company, marsha has a good proposal. we need to look at the federal subsidy and whether it needs to be changed, reduced or eliminated. the most important thing for us to do on a bipartisan basis is look at the cost drivers. senator feinstein, the senior senator from my state has for a long time championed versus forms of tort reform. this is a democrat. tort reform that will help stop the kind of excess medicine that drives up the cost of health care. that's one component we should all work towards because we really want to have affordable medicine that we then figure out who pays for. >> best of luck to the 115th congress. >> i just want to say that i hope we'll come up with the solutions before we try to get rid of something that will impact all americans. that's my last thing. i think it would be mall practice, pun intend. >> last thing, my friend, joe biden, needs to stay engaged. he's going to leave the office but he says he's going to stay engaged, driver his corvette, but be en

i can recall calling my daughter fresh out of the university of wisconsin and asking, jen, do you have health insurance? she said, dad i'm fine. i'm healthy i don't need. you know what the affordable care act, my daughter, anyone's daughter up to the age of 26 can stay on the family's plan. how about that for common sense. 90,000 people -- young people in illinois are protected because of that plan. now we hear from the republicans that that is a big failure and we have to repeal it. the other thing we did was for the senior citizen. there was something called the doughnut hole. it related to seniors for paying prescription drugs. here is what it said. we will cover you for the first few months of the year with medicare paying the prescription drug costs, and then you're on your own for three or four months. once you delved into your personal savings for a couple of months we will help you out. go figure. seniors across the country felt completely vulnerable. when they went into the period of no coverage, many of them stopped taking their drugs. that's not a good thing. we closed that gap. we closed th

health policy and management at columbia university mehlman school of public health. as kasie said, this is incredibly complicated. it's not actually a thing, obamacare. it's a series of mechanisms that allow people to be insured. you have been with me for the last three years as we have covered this in remarkable deta detail. how do you keep the popular parts, as kasie said, one is young, healthy people insured on their parents' plan. that's not the expensive part. but the preisising conditions, it's expensive. president obama didn't like the idea of making everyone pay. he was convinced that's how it had to work. >> you raised a great point. republicans are in a bit of a bind right now. they have three big problems. problem number one, this is a complicated political process they have to follow in congress. as kasie said, you know, they can't repeal the whole thing. they've been talking about repealing the whole thing for years, but the democrats would filibuster that,hich means they havo go through this complicad budget process to get to 50 votes. you can do certain things to the budget process and you can't do other things. they're dealing with, number one, a complicated, political process. number two, the

health insurance if obamacare is repealed. we asked president trump about that because he told "the washington post," i want insurance for everyone. that sounds like universal he said what my plan is i want to take care of everybody and when we said does that mean no one loses their health insurance on obamacare right now or ends up with anything less, he said, well, i can't promise, you know, no one will. he said we're talking about millions of people but he said my plan is i want to take care of everyone. we know the debate on capitol hill is access to health care or will you have the insurance you have right now. >> that's the big one. martha, we'll bring you in. his comments on waterboarding and he says he believes that it do w though he did say he's going to listen to his appointees. >> and ellisen to them at this point but i think what donald trump did in that interview, david, is he said exactly what he had been saying in the campaigns, in that debate and yet he can now pass it off to his cabinet members and say, look, general mattis and i think we all remember what general mattis apparently said to president trump, which was, look, i don't really th

universal access to health care. the phrase suggests a more modest number of people would be covered than president trump's insurancerybody. speaker ryan says people shoulder the ability to buy affordable health care, but the government should not make people do something. philadelphia wants to make sure eligible residents apply for the federal earned income credit when they file their taxes in the coming months. the city launched an awareness campaign called you earned it, philliment residents between 25 and 65 years old and have a qualifying child may be eligible for the credit. the average refund is about $2500. >>> the fed talked interest rates in business. cbs nbc's dominic chu has a preview. >> the earnings flood continues with big doses of tech, energy and health care. big names include apple, facebook, exxonmobil, merck and pfizer. the economical lender has a powerful one-two punch in the form of federal reserve meetings on interest rates and the employment report for january, but that's not all. there's also monthly auto sales, consumer confidence plus several reports on the health of the manufacturing and

universal access to health care. the phrase suggests a more modest number of people would be covered than president trump's insuranceor everybody. speaker ryan says people should have the ability to buy affordable health care, but the government should not make people do something. >>> happening today, new jersey will be starting its annual pothole repair campaign much sooner than normal. state transportation officials say frequent rain plus wild temperatures swings are causing potholes to appear earlier in the season. they say drivers can expect crews to patch most of these holes between 9:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. >>> 7:26 right now. up next on "nbc 10 news today," a new hope. the story of a local family already feeling the impact of the immigration crackdown and how the judge's order could help them do something they haven't done in 14 years. first we say good morning to krystal. >> we're looking at temperatures today that will be chilly. but you can see on our radar and satellite, mostly dry. as we go into tomorrow, this picture outside center city might have a few flakes falling across it. we'll talk about that com

health insurance and get that on the books. so then the insurance companies know what they're working with. they know what that environment is going to be. and really, what the universeoing to be. melissa: yeah. >> you also have to look at the tort reform issues that need to be advanced. you have to look at the making your providers and your hospitals whole as they have had money taken from them to stand up obamacare. seniors and medicare. you have to have a way to make them whole through this process. so it is going to be done incrementally. melissa: okay. >> and you have to phase out and phase in. melissa: let me ask you, though. obviously the mandate is not working because there aren't enough healthy people buying into the system. that's the bottom line of what's going on. but does the system work without the mandates? i mean, it does seem like it's going to be very difficult to pay for all the sick people if you don't have healthy people buying in. how do you fix that problem? >> one of the provisions that we offered at the blare house health care summit back in 2010 was high risk pools for those with preexisting conditions. and that is an idea that we need to re

university cum laude. and they only pay us $16 an hour. we got to pay for our own health insurance. i got to pay $400 a month for my health insurance premiums. it's very difficult. and if they hear me talking to you, chances are, i mean, i might not have a jobs. but -- job. this is all a result of governor snyder's right-to-work law. d i'm long time -- my family works in the auto industry. i know how well u.a.w. workers have been paid and respected. it's just not right. there's a pending class-action lawsuit against the former contract employer. they were not paying overtime. g.m. knows about this. i just wanted to let you know, let the american public know what's going on within the auto industry over at general motors. host: all right. that's john in michigan. next caller is joe from hollis, maine, also worked at the manufacturing spector. joe, what do you think this morning? caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: well, i guess you can't really put this all in just a minute or so into what's going on here. but i've been watching this since the 1970's. now remember all o