and a public university.o with all of the youngest let me now get your findings in the book. i'll focus on the issues i raised earlier about the presumed homogeneity of conservative college students across the country and that will do this in particular by drilling down on students political styles on these two case studies campuses. when i talk about styles are not talking just about students and alums stated ideological beliefs or the doctrines that they addicted but also their expressive practices in the service of those beliefs. and i do this because in the increasingly polarized national environment and even within the republican party itself, we are seeing that the styles of politics is becoming, are becoming as important as the ideas of politics. insofar as particular styles of animosity, gridlock, a lack of compromise. i'll open my discussion of conservative college student styles with a couple of vignettes from our data. so it is 2007 and members of the college republicans at western flagship had jus

. >> university professors with masters and ph.d.'s not the typical example of someone struggling to pay bills or put food on the table. a event report from congress found most adjunct or nontenure track professors are making a median salary of 22,000 which is about what a fast food worker makes. >> some of the obstacles i face as an adjunct professor is compensation. i make below the poverty line living in california. teaching full time course load. and because of this the financial difficulties i'm unable to pay rent on my own. so i'm forced to live at home with my parents. there was a time when i had office space. i don't really have that anymore. and so now i just kind of have fallen back on coffee shop a couple of blocks up the street. >> i teach three different universities. i spend about 13 hours every week in the car. and i could be using that time to you know, to spend time with my students. >> and of course the instructors are not the only ones affected. 98% of respondents from the same report said they missed opportunities

the rest of the universe. even background radiation. 15 billion years, they can only get it about half way and that is why they have inflation theories which means everyone has a problem concerning the light issue. people do not understand that we have some models on our website to help explain those sorts of things. >> your counter rebuttal. >> i am completely unsatisfied. you did not in my view address fundamental questions. 680,000 years of snow ice layers which require winter-summer cycles for let's say you have 2000 kinds instead of seven, that makes the problem even more extraordinary. multiplying 11 by 3.5. we get to 35, 40 species every day that we do not see. they are not extent. we are losing species due to mostly human activity and loss of habitat. as far as know of being an extraordinary shipwright, my family spend their whole life learning to make ships. it is very reasonable perhaps to you that noah had superpowers and was able to build this extraordinary craft with seven family members but to me

th >> i go to the university of california irvine, >> louisiana state university. >> virginia tech. >> guatemala. >> university of sou dakota. >> university of -- [inaudible] joh a special edition, 1500 college students from all over the world gathered here to debate what makes for free society. these are our future leader learning about liberty. students usual don't learn about that in school. tonight, what you ought to know about conomic freedom, free speech, personal responsibility, drugs, privacy, nd america's constitution. stossel u, that's our show, tonight. ♪ [cheers and applause] >>> and now, john stossel. [cheers and applause] john: thank you, you students are unusual. youhave a special interest in liberty. moss people don't which makes me wonder, how many of you ever discuss liberty on your campuses? how many of your professors discuss it? [laughter] how manyf hem discuss social justice? many more. i'm not surprised given the love for big government on big campuses. most of your professors probably don't know much about basic economics, which is why we titled this show "stos

public university we wanted to see how universities were understood to shape politics. social scientist have been interested in universities' effect on their politics and values, but the bulk of this uses national or campus level based on surveys to measure whether students change in their political participation rate like voting and whether that increases or decreases because of college. or it measures if college modifys the polittle -- political -- orientation. what the political socialization can't do, it wasn't designed to do, is consider the multiple ways that college campuses as interactional settings, which are made up of organizational features, housing, class size, student to faculty ratio and cultural undering of who we are on the campus and how these features might be giving meaning to and shape young people's ideas. by using methods in in-depth work and conservative organizations, we wanted to see if and how universities play a significant role in constituting new political idea and discovering new models for actions. kate and i are not alone in how we think

state university of new york, oswego harvard university of bawl.ma. >> we had an student writing a story for the school paper, hockey coach necessary the area saying how do you find a relation to the hockey coach to be. don't worry, not everything you say has to be complimentary. one of the coaches forwarded it back to the administration and they actually got the student in trouble for basically calling it lets, calling that something that you are not allowed to say on their campus. he got in trouble simply for saying not everything has to be positive. >> harvard, number would. >> they decided to read the e-mails of 16 of their resident deans because they were trying to figure out who was leaking information about a cheating scandal at harvard. >> at brown university, new york police commissioner ray kelly was prevented from speaking. >> we ask you to let him speak and make the comment part of the question and answer part of the program. >> he eventually zbaf up and left the auditorium. this happened to me at brown. they pulled out my mike cord. th

you and i are a product of the universe. it's astonishing. i see your faces and we have come to be because of the universe's existence. and we are driven to pursue that, to find out where we came from. and the second question we all want to know, are we alone? are we alone in the universe? and these questions are deep within us and they drive us. so the process of science, the way we know nature is the most compelling thing to me. and i just want to close by reminding everybody what's at stake here. if we abandon all that we've learned. our ancestors, what they've learned about nature and our place in it. if we abandon the process by which we know it, if we eschew if we let go of everything that people have learned before us, if we stop driving forward, stop looking for the next answer to the next question, we and the united states will be out-competed by other countries, other economies. now that would be okay i guess. but i was born here, i'm a patriot. and so we have to embrace science education. to the voters and taxpayers that are watchi

that is the thing about the universe. the universe is the lurch. the planetarium program looks at us. they tell us how large the universe is. i think it shows us how great god is. all-knowing god who created the universe to show us his power. can you imagine that? nothing remarkable in the bible on the fourth day of creation and he made the stars also. he's an all powerful god. he made them to show us how great he is. he's an infinite creator. the more you understand what that means, that god is all-powerful, infinite, you realize how small we are. you realize that god consider this planet is so significant that he created human needs here and stepped into history to die for us to be raised from the dead and the salvation, wow, what a guy. that is what i would say when i see the universe as it is. >> mr. nye, any response? >> is a question that troubles assault from the time of your youngest and first able to think. that is, where did we come from? where did i come from? this question is so compelling that we have invented the science of astronomy.

the rest of the universe. even background radiation. 15 billion years, they can only get it about half way and that is why they have inflation theories which means everyone has a problem concerning the light issue. people do not understand that we have some models on our website to help explain those sorts of things. >> your counter rebuttal. >> i am completely unsatisfied. you did not in my view address fundamental questions. 680,000 years of snow ice layers which require winter-summer cycles for let's say you have 2000 kinds instead of seven, that makes the problem even more extraordinary. multiplying 11 by 3.5. we get to 35, 40 species every day that we do not see. they are not extent. we are losing species due to mostly human activity and loss of habitat. as far as noah being an extraordinary shipwright, my family spend their whole life learning to make ships. it is very reasonable perhaps to you that noah had superpowers and was able to build this extraordinary craft with seven family members but to me it

from indiana university. upon my retirement from the university in january of 2013, i joined the research staff. i'm a stellar astronomer. that means by primary i'm interested in stars. i published many materials in the astronomy literature, such as the astronomical journey. there is nothing in observational astronomy that contradicts a recent creation. >> i mentioned dr. steward in england. he invented designed double action gear set of robotic arm on a very expensive satellite. in that had not worked, the whole satellite would be useless. yet dr. burgess is a biblical creationist. -- let's see what he says about scientists believing in creation. >> that's a real problem today. we need to have freedom to be able to speak on these topics. i want to say by the way, nonchristian scientists, are really borrowing from the christian world view to carry out their art. when they're doing observational science they have to assume the laws of logic, they have to assume the laws of nature. they have to assume the unifo

this is at stanford university where the university says they have been talking about doing this for months, now the two vendors that sell cigarettes are on board to stop selling them. the university saying that they are an advocate for the health and well being of the entire community and the sales of cigarettes around campus are inconsistent with that. so, what this means is that the sales will stop at the valero gas station and the union on campus. cvs pharmacy announced a change. i spoke with a student who wondered why it had not happened before. >> for people who don't smoke it's a neutral thing because they had all of this time to stop selling cigarettes if it was a moral stand. there is pressure on them with other universities doing it so i'm not impressed. >> reporter: he may not be but this does build on stanford's smoke-free environment policy which means that smoking is prohibited in classeses, offices and buildings. it's permitted outdoors but you have to be at least 30 feet away from the nearest building. this policy change starts on march 1. reporting live at stanford,

eventually, when i spoke with the lawyer here at the university, i was told, i protect the universityrom liability. you are kind of on your own. i remember looking at him and the university is a collection of scholars and students, so who are you representing that does not include me? clearly there is an entity that does not include the professors and students and does not protect academic freedom in the way it should. >> i wanted to ask you about one of your critics, elizabeth whelan. times ran a york critical article about the herbicide, she referred to its reporting as "all the news that is fit to scare." this is a clip from her on msnbc. >> i disagree with the "new york story that talks about a totally bogus risk. atrazine is tightly regulated. even the epa, which is not known for soft-pedaling about chemicals, even they say it is safe. hast turns out syngenta been a longtime supporter of her organization. your comments on her remarks? >> again, they are paid remarks. one of the disheartening things in this process -- it is one thing to be an academic and argue about these points,

i am michael ashley student at university of delaware. what's a good outline or effective measure of creating small government that is faithful? >> to keep government smaller it is to link federal spending as a percentage of gdp. they are held responsible if they want to increase spending above historical norms. that's a good starting place. >> the rules are like the past ones. >> itch ken williams political science student at ohio university in obamacare. there is a a distrust innce comy want to make a profit. the solution is to mandate from the insurance company. >> where the idea comes from, i don't e no. it's a dumb idea. insurance companies have incentives to provide the next mix of coverage at competitive premiums. that is inl fearing with private choices. they would have much better policies of the mandates. >> we are out of time for questions for this segment. if you at home would like to keep the conversation going here's the twitter hash tag ifflc. i don't know how you are supposed to remember that. but stands for international

universities.te funding goes funding from the students and their families has to go up. that has cost us to drop from first in the world in the percentage of our college age students going on to college education. it is devastating we are slowly but surely this investing in public higher education in the country. host: your governor is calling for $50 million cuts in oklahoma. how does it impact your school? what does it mean? how do you adjust? guest: you adjust working harder. we raised $2 billion over the last 15 or 20 years. it means your researchers -- we have a new research park which is ranked number one in the country from the national association of research campuses. we are doing that. costs are shifted from the state. the state except less and he goes to families and working students and makes it harder for them to come to the university. economicest period of prosperity, real income doubled right after the g.i. bill, world war ii. the state governments and the national government got to

we love universities. great, building around high-class universities because that is our stock in trade. that is how we can reinvest. universities are key. talented and hungry workforce, people that like working for a part ofnd want to be a a facility. when we go, we go for 50 years. orre not going for a year two. the lifecycle of a jet engine is 25 years. you are not going there just to pick up something and leave. and then the economics are important, for sure. as much as the symbol for what the long-term relationship will be like with the state, as much a big assembly plant on jet engines, we might get $15 million from the state. this will be here for 50 years. way to get started and mitigate some of the risks. those would be my pieces of advice on how we invest. the world is all about competitiveness, number one. number two, we continue to invest and we like working directly with you. peoplea great team of that do this. there's not one thing that happens in the u.s. that i don't personally approved, or

the university. they say that they are students first and foremost. therefore they are saying that is why they're not eligible to unionize. the whole issue is before a labor examiner right now. who will decide if the athletes will be able to unionized or not. >> it is the beginning of the end. college athletes are going to be >> north boston university believes the players who have brought this petition are in fact students first and foremost and are not employees. >> it is the age-old struggle of workers' rights in this case student-athletes versus management. 85 members of the football team have signed cards that they are hoping to form a union. school officials oppose the action saying the players are students and not the employees. therefore they are not eligible to unionize. >> can be an employee of the university and be a student. the football program takes time from these athletes that is what they are devoted to. the fact that there also students means they're not entitled to the protections

. >> stanford university will soon stop selling tobacco products. christie smith live at stanford with the reason behind the change. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, scott. we've been walking around the union this morning and there aren't many ashtray stands set up. we only found one place this morning that suggests that it would be an okay place to smoke here. but this request came at the request of stanford university that the two vendors that do sell cigarettes stop selling them here by march 1. the university already has a smoke-free environment policy. that bans smoking in classes, offices, enclosed buildings and resident halls, to smoke outside you basically have to be at least 30 feet away or more from any building. stanford says that it is an advocate for health and well being and tobacco sales,

he was chief is frostbite communication is at its best bentley university increasing transparency in china's political life in the surreal quality to publicize its campuses in this country for the five eighth and five police officers judges and prosecutors. i level talks between south korea of the dprk weekend at his house on south korean side for the village of coverage all another opinion piece of me trying to die he slams the patent for its increasingly subversive and aggressive role in asia the company to the city to the plate on cctv you designed it when bombay jay one you cheat i won my taiwan's mainland affairs chief has delivered a speech at nanjing university on the second day off this trip to the mainland. wallace said that cross strait relations are at their best now. he also stressed the importance of youth exchanges been promoting cross strait relations he added that people from but the mainland and taiwan should carry on traditional chinese culture which can be a form of soft power in the world. long's visit in the eastern chinese city of nanjing a home wednesday came a

to give you an example i'm standing on university campus. the shooting happened across the street by those blue dumpsters. one source tells me this is the first time a university police officer had to fire his gun at someone in the department's history. police swarmed the neighborhood around the san jose state university campus, after 11:00 this morning. >> i heard like two gun fires and like i saw like his body and stuff. kind of scary. >> reporter: the call came in as a man carrying a large knife on campus. investigators say the suspect ignored orders from two university police officers to drop the knife. >> one officer from the university police department actually discharged his taser but obviously that had no effect. what happened after that is a second officer on scene used his firearm obviously in defense of his life and his partner and shot in the direction of the suspect, striking the suspect. >> he was pronounced dead at valley medical center. when alicia gomez stopped to pick up her daughter she feared the worst. >> when i pulled

joan bretton connelly is a architect and professor at new york university. your subtitle refers to the parthenon as the world's most iconic building. ionic in what sense in how do you define what it's come to mean? >> it stands for so much to so many generations of people. it is a building that is instantly recognizable. it is a buildinging that is endowed with meeting, the birthplace of democracy in particular over the ages, especially the enlightenment onwards it sets the stage for everything that we regard as our highest ideals, perfection in proportion and aesthetics. the. >> brown: but then your argument is that in taking all that in from the enlightenment on we've somehow missed something. we've missed the grex themselves >> we got it wrong, when you're confronted with an object of beauty we like that see ourselves in it, reflected glory. but when we try to look at it through ancient eye wes see a very different reality, a spiritual reality, one a deep, dark myth behind it. >> brown: explain that. first of all we think of it as a temple of democracy bu

they were adhered to by the university. and that kind of for me begs the question, if all the rules were adhered to and this still went on for this long, there's something wrong, there's a problem. the task force which i chair, the purpose is to look at this fact finding report and then to see what recommendations there are to be made so the university, to implement to see that this never happens again and what lessons we can learn from this. >> so you will be looking at, why is it that this student didn't feel there was someone or a group that he could come forward and talk to. what else will you be looking at? >> what's the training of those who lived on the floor, the resident advisers, students who work as quasi staff, and those who supervise the resident advisers, where were they? when that confederate flag was up in the window and they were told to take it down and they were and there were no further inquiries, that is problematic? it turns out many, many times individuals from staff had to go to that suite to deal wi

i had only been at the university for three weeks.ad no idea if there was a place on campus to go to. i was afraid of getting my friends in trouble. i was afraid of myself getting in trouble. i was a young woman on campus doing things i shouldn't have been doing. i just - i honestly did not cross my mind, i don't think, until - i tried to forget about it, because it was one of those things that you feel shame for, even though now you shouldn't feel - i shouldn't have felt that way. >> when you hear about the reports at the universities, how do you react? >> that's what made me write the peace, what's happening at my universities and others at u.c. berkeley, that women need to know that we should be able to come forward after something like this happens to us. and it pains me to see 20 years later nothing has changed and perhaps maybe it's worse, i don't know. all these cases of students coming forward and the universities turning their back is just unacceptable really. >> the university of iowa present is making news with regards to c

of paying the players you are paying the universities of the university is incentivize for keeping the> so far the ncaa is not stepping in. do you believe it would help solve the problem if the ncaa did step in and did what they did with the seminoles and stripped them of their titles in 2005 and 2009 and show the world what happens when you cheat and a fraud? the university has established, we should add, that some of these things did take place. >> yeah, i will not be a popular guy on campus today if i agree this is what the ncaa should do. >> well, do it. >> you will be popular here. >> i think it would be -- what i would like to see would be if unc would voluntarily vacate the championships. that would show everyone that unc is an honorable institution. we should just give it back. would like to thank you for being bold and courageous and appearing on here with us at "market makers." and ball bearing from bloomberg ringnessweek -- paul bea from bloomberg businessweek. he wrote the story. paul, thank you. >> when we come back, we have a lot more to cover here on "market makers." we'

there was that rush. >> the university pointed out that the university doesn't keep that, not the stub hub, that goes to people. >> let's check in. a rainy forecast if you get far enough into the week. >> speaking of stub hub you can get preseason giants games on stub hub. they are already available, first game is this week. we'll look at the forecast for that coming up. and yaerks it's going to be a warm day here and very warm out in scottsdale, arizona. we'll tell what you our giants are going to be playing in for today. 45 in san francisco. 42 degrees, good morning to you in the east bay. south bay is waking up at 44 degrees, it's cold enough for a coat. something that you can peel off later on today. by 11:00 we're looking at temperatures in the 70s. low 70s. at 11:00 a.m. up to 74 today at 2:00 p.m. in the south bay, 69 degrees is the forecasted high in san francisco. it's hard to beat this time of year. you'll see from this live picture of san rafael this morning. we're not working with a lot of fog. that's good news. the sun's going to be out right off the bat. sunshine means wa

faculty university or the students. faculty members say they plan to walk picket lines tomorrow >> 11 years as the deadliest disaster at and night spot. 21 people lost their lives. a security guard pepper sprayed into a crowd. tonight families will hold a prayer vigil. prosecutors say the upstairs club was built to hold 240 people. security video estimated the crowd of 1100. >> sentence to two years in prison. an appellate court has ordered a new sentencing hearing. >> get your petals off of the metal. chicago has just put up more speed cameras. right now cameras are giving out warnings. they will issue tickets come march 30th. cameras are around legion park have moved out of the warning phase. people will be issues tickets. the threshold will eventually be lowered to 6 mi. over the limit. >> public hearings will be held this week on the expressway. opponents say they are ready to speak out. the 47 mi. toll road would connect interstate 55 with interstate 65. in an environmental impact study finds that the expressway co

and playing a college sport is voluntary and this onlyeals with private universities. this is playing out doesn't make sense and doesn't look like it would fly. but you never know. >> there's no doubt that ben is right. desperation time. they had two giant losses. the uaw defeat in tennessee was huge, that was really huge. a lot of people though they would have won that. but it was a huge loss -- they were going to unionize at an amazon facility. by the way, in 2012, some grad assistants were going to unionize at the university of michigan they voted that down. it's extraordinarily desperation. and the reason i guess the united steelworkers, maybe they have the unblemished record. >> they're providing legal services. >> my dad was a steelworker. he did not come up -- i think this is a good idea. here's why. college spts is a business. if you're working at a business, why can't you organize and get some of that money? >> there's plenty of precedent for unions suppoingther unions. and this is a group of workers who have been exploited for a long time. it's a pret good id

we love universities. we love building around great, high-class universities because that is our stock in trade. that is how we can reinvest. universities are key. talented and hungry workforce, people that like working for a living and want to be a part of a facility. when we go, we go for 50 years. we're not going for a year or two. the lifecycle of a jet engine is 25 years. you are not going there just to pick up something and leave. and then the economics are important, for sure. as much as the symbol for what the long-term relationship will be like with the state, as much as -- if we do a big assembly plant on jet engines, we might get $15 million from the state. this will be here for 50 years. it is a way to get started and mitigate some of the risks. those would be my pieces of advice on how we invest. the world is all about competitiveness, number one. number two, we continue to invest and we like working directly with you. i have a great team of people that do this. there's not one thing that happ

but first, next week university of california president janet napolitano leads the u.s. delegation to the winter olympics in sochi, russia. as former secretary of homeland security napolitano may be well suited to the job. the militant group claiming responsibility for a suicide bombing in december has threatened to attack again during the olympics. in addition to russia's decision to grant asylum to nsa leaker edward snowden has increased tensions between the two countries.o<Ñ >>> so has russia's stance against gay rights. the ten-member delegation representing the u.s. has three openly gay athletes, including tennis great billie jean king and skater brian boitano. scott shafer sat down with uc president janet napolitano. >> welcome. >> thank you. >> first of all, you are getting ready to go to sochi for the games. >> i am. >> what are your thoughts as you prepare to leave? >> i'm excited. i'm honored to be leading the u.s. official delegation. i'm fascinated by sochi. i've never been there so that will be interesting. and, you know, i want to go there, represent my cou

it said that the university did not violate any policies, but the campus leadership should have been made aware of the problems earlier. an independent fact finder hired by san jose state university released his report today looking into the alleged harassment of a black student by four of his white roommates. the report detailed racial slurs, a confederate flag and a u-shaped bike lock fastened around the victim's neck last fall. the report says the university only learned of the instant after the parents complained last october and that the university's president was briefed on it until november, five weeks after the investigation began. the report concludes in part that university staff acted in compliance with relevant policies and past practice. evidence demonstrates that campus leadership did not follow its usual practice in its executive oversight of the incidents. the author concedes what the report doesn't include as an account by the alleged victim or three of the four accused. >> it was not ideal, but i think that in terms of getting that information which is going to be i

well because the universities the young people in the universities is where the. united states has chosen to promote this kind of extremist groups we expelled from our country to three u.s. diplomats because of their involvement in the training and organization and financing of this extreme groups and used the university they are there for. their place to gather jihad evidence about those three u.s. diplomats that they're actually doing that. well yes that's why we our government expelled them we counter-intelligence plenty of counter-intelligence over their activities and a lot of support to shows how they were involved in this kind of organization of these extremist groups so the students are on the streets are they mostly from private universities or public ones there or does it even matter is there a difference. again it is. that people who are protesting are not only students right now i mean we find by the people who have been detained. certainly young people but. there are many that are related to this extreme groups. ought for for example you know all thes

reporting live at stanford university, robert handa, ktvu channel 2 news. >> all right.nk you for that update. >>> after more than seven decades of being known as the bay bridge, the san francisco side of it is getting a name change. a ceremony is underway as the bridge is being rae named in honor of willie brown. sal castanedo is live there at the ceremony. >> reporter: i'm gonna try to keep my voice down because the mayor is still speaking. he's on the podium right now addressing the 500 or so people who are here. we spoke to the mayor and he said he's glad he got to see this in his lifetime. >> as a matter of fact, i want to be the example of how you should say thank you to people who have done things, to say thank you after they are dead, is a little bizarre. if you say thank you before they expire, it's like being in the hall of fame. why would you be happy to be in the hall of fame after death? >> reporter: the bridge signs will not be paid for by the tax payers. but the cost about $6500 is being funded by the naacp. many in the african-american community say this

for the most part fold university procedures and policies. the report also found one reason it took so long for the alleged bullying to come to light was because the victim never reported it or indicated it was a problem. >> i find that unacceptable. >> why? >> because we've been trying to bring to it the attention of the campus for a long time for them to deny any responsibility when we've been talking about this is unacceptable. >> reporter: gary daniels lead the black unity group on campus. he says the university has very poor policies to begin with. the next step is for an 18 member task force led by retired judge to meet and come up with recommendations on things the university can do to change in order to make sure incidents like this never happen again. that task force is made up of community members, faculty members and students and they plan to release their recommendations by april 30th. coming up at 6:00 tonight we'll hear from the university president about this report. >>> thank you. finally got some in the midst of some of the d

universal, universal, you're right. universal, that gravity extends everywhere. and what this equation tells us? the equation of gravity just tells us that there's an attractive force, 'f' between all things and for any two things that attractive force depends upon, is proportional to, is related to the product of the masses of the two things. this might be a planet, one. this might be another planet, two. those two planets are tugging on each other with the force that depends very much on how much mass they have, but it also peters out with distance square. as the distance between those planets or those chunks of matter or those particles, as the distance between increases, guess what happens to the force? just what you would expect to happen. - larger or smaller? - smaller. how many say, "oh, it seems to me "as the planets get further and further away, they pull harder and harder on each other?" stand up, i wanna see what you look like. nobody say that. but you see, we can say that statement here mathematically by putting this downstairs, huh? as that make the

abouts applies to my idea the need for the university. i think students, almost any age, really want a human mentor leading them. in a very specific example, when we started apple, we needed money and we found this guy that would finance us. he owned as much stock in apple computer as steve and i did. kid that cameoung from nothing, he was experience. he told us, he was our mentor. he told us how companies get set up and how you judge the business contracts and the deals in the financing and percentages. he told us here are the people you hire to make a company. president, thehe accountant, the operations people. here is what their responsibilities are. -- mine was easy, run engineering. steve was learning how to run a company. he was a total mentor. instead of having engineers that would build a product, marketing would think about the people and the users. me, the consumer is always more important than the company that makes him. i loved the idea. you understand what they want, what it is worth to them and what you can charge them for f