only we spoke to own more or, or mates on go, who's a professor of genocide studies at the university of amsterdam. and he's research led to the prosecution of a syrian official involved in war crimes. he says, dna testing and analyzing archives are needed to reveal the identities of those killed or the true scale of exactly how many mass graves are there will be out there. or how many courses is really only can be found in the archives of the servers in especially in the archives of its intelligence agencies. that's why it is absolutely crucial important that these archives are not touched, that they are handled in a professional way. that people don't go pillaging them, those are the journalists don't go entering these. these branches and showing documents off is really important that they are safe guards. because if the families want to reach the truth about what happens with their loved ones, the truth is in the archives end of the mass graves. so both, both of these should be respected. almost like in bosnia the mass graves date of course they contain the dna evidence to forensic evidence tha

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mass graves across syria to or, or major or who is the professor of genocide studies at the university of amsterdam is research led to the prosecution. all the syrian official involved in war crimes . he is joining us around. so that professor, thank you very much for your time. it's not the 1st time of course that a mass grave has been discovered in, in syria. but this particular one set to contain the remains of, of up to a 100000 people seems, you know, quite difficult and, and quite painful. i imagine for the families to, to understand this. how surprised all you 1st of all, but this particular site could contain up to a 100000 bodies as well. um, i'm not surprised at all. to be honest uh that, um, that the regime handled its courses instruction and it kind of industrial and almost professionally the fact that the air force intelligence, one of the 4 major intelligence agencies was responsible for that is also not really a surprise. we're dealing here. let's not forget what 54 years old, and also terry, and redeem a dictatorship that as tortured and lots of good people on a scale of almost unpr