university of auckland. he acknowledges new zealand's success comes in part from its small size and isolationbut also from elevating public health over economic concerns. >> and in fact, our former prime minister, helen clark, was basically said that you can recover from a damaged economy, but you can't recover if you're dead from covid-19.ch >>rin: next door, australia has also had success. australia's conservative prime minister, scott morrison, led with science and stark warnings. he issued an early stay-at-home order, movement restrictions, >> there are no guarantees, i want to stress. this virus writes its own rules and we have to seek to try and understand them as best we can, and respond as best we can toe essures that we face. >> schifrin: morrison's response was a political recovery, afdur he stumbleng australia's worst ever brush fires. tukuitonga fears the u.s. is stumbling today. >> in terms of the leadership r the nation and for the world, that the u.s., as we have known it, isn't shing those ndadership required for controlling the ic at home, but obviously in terms of communicating to the rest of the