related issues in dublin is jennifer cassidy. electra and diplomacy and international law at the university of aux would, as well as a form of diplomat latasha to orleans permanent mission to the united nations and in london. is chris gotten us a full minute spokesman for over with the you ins release agency for palestinian refugees? he's also a founder of the me and my accountability project, which is the humanitarian organization. i will welcome to little 3 of you. thank you very much for joining us on inside stir story festival knock. if i can begin with you, can you just explain how significant this move is from gutierrez? does it actually mean anything or. ringback or is it largely symbolic? so it's institutionally significant because this is only the 6th time since 1945 that a secretary general has invoked article $99.00. and it has meaning to the extent that it compels the security council to hold a meeting on the issue to which the secretary general wants to direct their attention. but beyond that, it's hard to measure the impact of this specific meeting because the kind of broader geo pol