and i can speak now to the policy or she is economics professor at the university of barcelona appreciate you coming on alice and we haven't got any official results at this stage but some media organizations are releasing information from exit polls and according to them they secessionist parties are likely to gain the majority what would you make of that if that's how it turns out with that surprise you are not. well it's very uncertain turnout has increased with respect all two years ago or elections so are we what we want now until are until maybe ten one thirty it seems it's going to be a majority if it's if there is an independent it's a majority it seems it's going to be tight. in these elections have been organized on there are very strange circumstances with the two leaders of the independent these parties one in jail the other in exile in brussels and also after a strong campaign of fear by the spanish states after a lot of repression and economic threats so we are i'm not sure how if that fear is going to all to have an impact in the in the in their final results we are still a

university of barcelona economics professor policia told us that voting has been painful for people from catalonia remembering all the violence that occurred on referendum day it's been a sad the election in a sense because it's been done and they're very very sad succumb stances and. there are there are. not. very quiet conditions between the two blocs and these elections have been organized under our very extreme circumstances with two leaders of the penalties parties one in jail the other in brussels and so after a strong campaign of fear by this fine states after a lot of repression and economic threats with this high turnout. in the final results my might be a little bit different seems that. things are very tight between the two blocks and then there's a small small little party that is immediately in the middle of the two blocks. united nations general assembly hearing has wrapped up in new york after voting on whether to condemn america's recognition of jerusalem as israel's capital and tensions at un headquarters got the use of the beat up struck to the security council and made

intriguing possibilities i'm joined by eduardo wrote he's a constitutional law expert from the university of barcelona at what were in the article one five five direct rule from madrid another action run under those rules and yet the biggest party and the winner effectively might be another secessionist bloc another secessionist president now what happens real madrid respect a result such as that. well yes madrid will have to respect that result but the aim and the goal of the intervention was not to change the majority or at least the jury dickel aim of intervention was not to change the majority but to change the behavior of the majority in the sense that one can be secessionist and the succession is government but the new government should not prosecute those aims through illegal means so that means we have the expectation that the new government even if it is a suppression separatist government we'll act under the law and trying to find some kind of agreed solution with madrid in the light of what happened in quebec many years ago or even in scotland more recently so they can be succession they do

political analyst and contributor to the new york times on the guardian from barcelona sonya those of lecture at the university barcelona also from madrid daniel gone the editor of the spanish edition of this or three letters magazine thanks for joining us on inside story welcome to you all daniel the ousted president of catalonia he's in exile fighting extradition the former vice president is behind bars accused of rebellion and sedition other officials are either in jail or then they're out of barcelona so this is very very unprecedented how unprecedented is it for an election to be held under these circumstances. what i think is as you say is that it is very ampicillin because they were expensive and they got a one hundred fifty five course was never in. fact is not so this equation least you seemed to know. president then there was no one thing that the dentist who who normally politics but obviously the seventies turns campaign with this these folks out early in some of these candidates in greece and i think this. makes at least at me by our full and i very emotional. and if you don't campaign miguel isn'

because they have ousted a regional government and we want our form of government to be restored and not to be changed university or barcelona economics professor ellison the palace theater told us that voting has been painful for catalans given the violence they experienced on referendum day. it's been a subtle action in a sense because it's been done under very very sad situation stances and. there are there are. not. very quiet conditions between the two blocs in this elections have been organized and there are very strange circumstances with two leaders of the independent this party is one in jail the other in exile in brussels and also after a strong campaign of fear by the spanish state after a lot of repression and economic threat with this high turnout things in the final results my might be a little bit different it seems that things are very tight between the two blocks and then there's a small small little party that is immediately in the middle of the two blocks. you noted nations general assembly hearing is wrapped up in new york after voting on whether to condemn america's recognition of jerusalem as the capita

billed as the day of reflection that essentially is to give time for voters to consider their options but i'm here today with sonia she's a political science professor at barcelona university sagna is this election is it going to draw a line under catalonians political turmoil or is it going to be fuel to the fire unfortunately i think it's going to move fuel to the fire just one step more in this long political process. it seems that the election was organized from madrid as a solution for the conflict but the way it has been carried out with so many things that are normal under normal ety such a very complex center you know with options being various symmetrical it seems that it's not going to solve the background problem which is in the balance or not now if separatists parties manage to get a majority in the new parliament that's a big if but if they do manage that what are we going to see if we're going to see more arrests of separatist leaders or is the madrid government going to allow them to take their seats and press ahead with their project so i think that is the big thing of this election in particular because as it was designed and decided from madrid it's the

barcelona where he has been getting reaction to today's developments. manny mariano rajoy wants to have talks with whoever forms the biggest grouping here. let's talk to a professor of economic at the universityrter. we'll carles puigdemont be pragmatic, grown—up, wise enough to actually reach out and meet the spanish authorities halfway to bring about some sort of change, because the status quo cannot continue, can it? we don't know. first he will have to be elected. then he has been offering dialogue and meeting with mariano rajoy. but will he put independence to one side to bring about some sort of movement here to allow the country to move forward? this is doing huge damage, according to madrid authorities, to the spanish economy. they have to negotiate with the other party. they are very tight. there is also a coup. first they must agree in what sort of proposal they are going to make. one of the parties has 32 seats. ca rles make. one of the parties has 32 seats. carles puigdemont‘s party has 34. what more could madrid offer the separatist grouping short of independence? well, it up to them to make a proposal. what do the separatists want? independence. it is the others who have to offe

professor sonia and dolls from barcelona university so sonia if this trend continues it is going right now what does this mean edmunds the spanish the bread from mr murray and of the whole has not been successful i would say both clocks seem to have remained although their skin cancer inside the blogs from the smaller parties to the larger ones this is just approved this election was very polarized and that means that we do have a very fractured society that is just a reflect of how fractured right now the cuttle in society is now if the trend is maintained it could be that the program unionist citizens' party becomes the biggest single party but the process session bloc is the majority bloc is that going to have any impact that a pro unionist party is the biggest single party you have definitely dialed is going to give something very new in catalonia to be the first time in history in the turn in parliament and i think probably the mothers who is the leader of the citizens party will try to make the best out of that of being the most voted party that said it looks very improbable that she would be able to. form of government with the tentative results we're s