i am glad the university of chicago and others came out since. this is not new. saw this in the blood of covid patients a year ago. >> yes, that's true. vitamin-d is part of the recipe for early treatment just to make sure that people are not depleteed in vitamin-d especially during the winter months when everybody is depleted of vitamin-d and everybody should take vitamin-d as a matter of it's winter and we take vitamin-d. >> laura: do you apply the same analysis to early intervention drugs such as ivermechtin? >> they are demeaned because they are a threat to higher-priced medications. >> laura: constant testing. thank you very much. joe biden playing santa claus and dr. fauci landed another cover. raymond arroyo explains it in "seen and unseen" next. but loweh once-weekly ozempic® helped me get back in it. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic® ♪ my zone? lowering my a1c and losing some weight. now, back to the show. ozempic® is proven to lower a1c. most people who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. and you may lose weight. adults lost on average up to 12

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first of all prime minister gillard and doctor ngozi okonjo-iweala,welcome to the university of chicago . what an honor it is to have you lead this discussion. your book creates many topics but primary is women in leadership so that's where i will start. the first part of your thoughts is doing the numbers . we learned for example no women have ever led the world bank, the office of the presidency in the united states , france, north korea and mexico. that's 70 percent of nations. 1.6 percent of women, 26 percent of news media are women and so on. your reason for writing the book is calling our attention to the dearth of women in positions of leadership and can you talk about what motivated you to write the book and what sparks this ongoing debate about women in leadership? what did you imagine? >> okonjo-iweala, did you want to start? >> obviously she will her own personal modifications but we started a very intense conversation with ngozi in her capacity at the vaccine alliance and her partnership for education and even though she was busy with other things we would always find time t

doctor solomon rogers is here, a, surgeon, public health expert from university of chicago of medicinediscuss effort underway chicago to apply public health solutions to this challenge. have been proud to work with him to help expand trauma informed care and health education anda other community settings. on the initiative that's brought ten major chicago hospitals togetherti on a collaborative effort to address root causes violence in their surrounding neighborhoods. kids are born with a gun in their hands and they want born as members of gangs. something happens. he'll tell us what he's seen. this important legislation pending in this committee to reform gun laws. well-known gaps in the federal background check system, the gun show loophole, internet loophole and more. these gaps make it too easy for felons, abusers and mentally unstable people to get their hands on guns and harm others. the house passed bipartisan background checks bill hr eight to close these gaps. a polls show around 90% of americans support closing thewo gapsa and background check system, 90%. we are debating thi

background in china and the point is this 10% equity stake by some estimate from scholars at the university of chicago worth 30 or $40 million and has all the smell of a payoff or access or influence or something like that, it is one of a series of deals that hunter biden did with chinese government entities while his father was vice president, he had a real estate deal that involved the charge use overseas shipping organization in a couple of investment funds that he set up that he got involved in, the bottom line there was a lot of financial ties between the biden family and the chinese government and the biden did not bring anything to the table, they did not bring expertise or capital, the question has to be asked why did the chinese give them a coveted seat at a very, very costly inexpensive table. this be what you meant in the biden, last question we mention hunter biden autobiography coming out and it's about his personal life and they think a lot of people may be inclined to ride off some of the foreign entanglements as a result of his struggles that he's had in his own life but as you pointed

to introduce the speaker thomas holt professor emeritus of african-american history at the university of chicago. his previous book our children afire the history of african americans and the problem of race in the 21st century. among his distinctions, he is a macarthur genius awardee and former president of the american historical association and american philosophical society. thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> you begin with many women you write about in the book who were not so well-known in the well ke struggle for civil rights. kerry fitzgerald and irene morgan. i want to start with the first, your maternal grandmother. >> guest: i will begin with the story of my grandmother because it captures some of the things you just noted that i wanted to explore in the book. my grandmother, as i described in the book in early 1944, basically it's a kind of rosa parks moment a bus going from lynchburg to her home and my birthplace. she took a seat in the so-called white section of the bus and as it turned out, she got arrested like rosa parks but i think that her

is only the latest in a series of academics his views have landed them in trouble last year university of chicago professor harald came under fire for criticizing the black lives matter and defund the police movements he was forced to apologize or professor steven pinker from harvard university was accused of playing down racial injustice in a series of old tweets gregory mankiw again expressed his concern about the current state of free speech and education. there's a lot of people that are afraid to be who they are because they're afraid of being of being bullied by the cancel culture crowd and i'm hoping that we can fix this i've got a lot of feedback from. students at the university much more feedback i think then is objecting to this as far as. go ahead that somebody is finally standing up to the cancel culture that is just totally it's gripping our our colleges gripping many colleges there's a certain way of thinking that is acceptable on university campuses and anything that deviates from that. you either have to keep quiet or you risk getting what they say cancel as far as they will shut

years but more recently in the especially last summer, the was research that came out of the university of chicago, number of studies actually, and they were looking at the likelihood that a person would adhere to lockdown measures, mask-wearing, physical distancing based on are they skew politically and where they got their news from and do you watch tucker karlson or hannity and then based on that, based on zip code data. they said people who skewed more conservative and who watch fox news who were -- to those publication health nurses -- less likely to adhere to public health -- the knowledge level and the risk that people felt that covid-19le -- the threat it posed on them was lower. the knowledge was lower, the threat perception was lower for those who skewed conservative. >> it's seems like all of that backs up what we've been hearing all of this last -- this last year, these last few years but the idea of echo chambers, people constantly being served news that confirms they're political provides. >> i have colleagued that the vaccine scientists have gotten desperate because they work on vac

university of chicago. nd then during the pandemic 600 plus more selective colleges went test optional. so a lot of parents were suspicious last year. now almost through the entire admissions process for the first pandemic class when i talk to admissions dean's , they will tell me their applications without test scores are running anywhere between 25 and 50 percent. that's a lot even 25 percent is a decent amount. they are not through the acceptance yet but mostly running around that 25 percent of the class supply and may be 25 percent of acceptances are test optional. 's what this says to me is test optional but here's the problem working on the paperback edition trying to figure out in april when admission decisions are done how will colleges tell us they release the numbers? two things will happen if they release that shows test optional was high, they accepted a lot of students test optional what they will see next year is a huge rise in applications. they love those but not too many because they have to

merriam-webster, and the big bed of transitory inflation, merriam-webster quotes john cochran of the university of chicago and their use of transitory. i would say that a more recent word. jon: i would imagine we are going to hear more of that tomorrow. lisa: i would argue that we are going to be hearing a lot of that, how is the fed going to parse through the economic boom and maintain easy money policies, i think it's important to point you bring up, where are we in the cycle? the discussion about morgan stanley and fading the small-cap trade speaks to that. if you follow the monetary stimulus or fiscal stimulus, have we already got in the bulk of that and is that behind in the u.s.? jon: how quickly this cycle moves will be a theme of this program. from new york here is the price action. shaping up as follows. we pull back from all-time highs on the s&p 500, down one single point. the u.s. 10 year 1.5986. mutual price action in foreign exchange. lisa: kind of a stasis as people try to figure out where we are in the cycle and where the european union comes in with vaccines and monetary response. tom you

of my graduate students who is from chicago. they i found that they had one at the university of chicago and one my graduate students. copied it for me, and that was my first green book and i started with the green book. but as i got into the research, i realized the story is much broader than the green book. it's really about the automobile. and the way that the automobile changed african-american life and so the story kind of expanded from there. then the question yeah in the middle. you said the green book was? at gas stations is that right? some of them were giving away for free and others of them were sold for a dollar? money just through selling those or did the oil company. green green sold them and he sold them out of his harlem office and and in some places they were sold, but standard oil purchased them the standard oil had a contract with green to buy thousands of copies. following back is there any effort? put plaques along the the roads and some of the places where they went, you know to say that this was the green book stations that people went to the national trust for historic preservation has been tr

holt is professor emeritus of african-american history at the university of chicago. his previous books are children of fire, history of african-americans, and the problem of race in the 21st century. among his distinctions he is the macarthur genius awardee and former president of the american historical association and member of the american philosophical society. thank you so much for joining us to. >> thank you for having me. >> you began with two many women you write about in this book who were not so well known in the struggle for civil rights, kerry fitzgerald and eileen morgan. i want to start with the first, kerry fitzgerald, your maternal grandmother. how did she figured into the resistance? >> well, i begin with a string of my grandmother because it captures i think some of the themes you just noted that it wanted to explore in the book, that my grandmother as i describe in the book in 1944, early 1944 basically had a rosa parks moment where, this is in virginia, she gets on a bus going from lynchburg, virginia, to danville, her home. she took a seat in the

joining me is austan goolsbee, university of chicago school of business professor of economics and former chairman of the council of economic advisers. always wonderful to speak to you. your best guess, model four the impulse growth from this stimulus? austan: first, thanks for having me back. alix: always. austan: i don't consider this stimulus. i think it is properly thought of as a relief package, not conventional bang for the buck stimulus. as a result, i don't think the multipliers are as big as in a normal cycle on stimulus, so i am less anxious about the inflationary impact. i do think for this year, you could see an astoundingly good number for gdp growth. 5%, maybe even 6%, but that is just a temporary coming back. we are only about halfway refilling the whole bar that we dug in the middle of last year, so i think we are due a little but of juicing. alix: is the juicing worth the 43 basis point move we have seen on the 10 year? can we deal with 1.63%? austan: yes, for sure it is worth it. if you look historically, 1.6% is a very low rate. i think if you just note the fact that th

journalism conference, which brings together some of the smartest, most courageous young reporters from campuses like stanford university, university of chicago college for a weekend of educational formation and career development. we received news from our hotel, that the local department of health in alexandria, virginia, in response to an anonymous hold complaint, someone called allegedly expressing concern about the safety of the attendees at our conference, in response to that complaint, and eager and willing bureaucrat complied, and reclassified the educational program as a social event, and all social events are limited to only ten people, effectively canceling our student journalism conference this weekend. >> tucker: and what kind of country under eight, do we punish people based on anonymous complaints, and b, this doesn't seem to have anything to do with actual medical guidance, are there other conferences going on the same weekend? >> tucker, there've been conferences week in and week out in northern virginia and throughout the state of virginia. we were willing and eager to comply with all of the local and state covid health guid

get their news from these outlets and really that it is the truth so the university of southern california, university of chicago and oethers have found n areas where hannity has high viewership, there was a higher rate of morbidity and mortality and there is direct impacts on where you get your quote/unquote fuse from and what impact that has on your personal well being and public health. >> what is the flip side here, what is the counter? are other news outlets doing a good job of this causing undue fear. chris hayes has been speaking out. are you seeing others do that also? >> i'm seeing it to some extent but however in response to your first question as to dr. reiner as to the motive for those on the right, it is a ratings war as well. and communication scholars that i've been interviewing have been saying that the ratings for fox have fallen below cnn and msnbc and this january they are lower than in 21 years and according to a forbes analysis as well and whether you look at social media use or traditional media, when you are vying for viewers, you are more likely to become more more extremist and spread ve

this is from a new university of chicago study. 81% of americans support government-funded summer school for the amount of learning that was lost, right? it includes 76% of republicans in that number, 90% of democrats want summer school. you know who will not ever say yes to that? who won't say yes to that despite the fact that that should have been in the covid bill, folks, in the hundreds of billions. who won't go along with that? >> we know the answer. it's the teacher's union. at this point the american people have played poker with the teacher's union and the teachers have laid their cards on the team. they're not worried and minorities suffering under the holdouts. their cards are on the table. they don't care. >> martha: thank you. good to see you. good to have you here on the set with us. three feet apart. something like that. >> some so i -- scientifically appropriate distance. >> martha: and this weekend, we'll dig into the covid era mental health crisis robbing kids of their school life. and later today border patrol officials making a plea for urgent action on the broken immi

now, i think that's best expressed by the university of chicago's policy, which has become kind of a gold standard for free speech advocacy on university campuses. the university of chicago expressly prohibits, quote, obstructing or otherwise interfering with freedom of others to express views they reject or even loathe, end of quote. if you're confident in the rightness of your views and you have an environment that allows free expression of those views, you need not fear speech you find wrong. of course, that assumes that human beings are all gifted with the power of reason and can discern what is right. now you if it happens that that is not the case, if people cannot be trusted to listen to different views and come to the right conclusion, then there is no basis for democracy and our system of self-government then is fundamentally flawed. you can't -- you can shield students from hearing challenges and uncomfortable views while in college but not when they get out in the real world. and just think of these college students that are on campus, but if they had left high school for t

she became a lawyer at the university of chicago. that's my hometown. not frequent for women to do that and set up her own practice and got interested in politics. and she served in the territorial house and senate. and guess what? the first woman ever to be in that body. she was a ground breaker. in 1964, now this is five years after hawaii became a state, patsy ran for the united states congress. the first woman of color. and the first asian-american. and the first woman to represent hawaii. so she championed early childhood education, introduced the first child care bill in congress. and she was a ground breaker by introducing title 7. this was legislation that itself was groundbreaking, an amendment to the higher education act, title 9 ensured that women could be -- could not be excluded from participating in school activities, participating in collegiate athletics. and believe me, this was not an easy bill to pass. that same year, she actually did run for president. two years before shirley chisholm did, a very short race. she was an anti-vietnam w

section called playing god, the protestant theologian and one of the great thinkers from the university of chicago written on the old testament but it's also the phd in biology so in my book i do think that as scientists we can figure this out and there is room for the various framework i have a couple more questions to get in. is there any connection between stem cell research treatment? >> when they did the treatment they took the stem cells that produce blood cells and everything else and it could be used to edit stem cells because they can give birth to other types of cells. >> the last question i have for you, what book is next? >> i usually take six months to kick around some ideas and people interested in the world of business from bill gates to in particular i admire bill gates for a lot of reasons which you could imagine. the nobel prize in chemistry and i'm taking my time. >> i also want to say thank you for being here. we know the book doesn't come out until next week but we are so honored and lucky to have you here with us tonight. let me tell you this book is like a bible. it goes on

tom: i know you're not on speaking terms with michael from the university of chicago, that is understood, but when you hear for rowley say we are going to introduce jobs through 2021, how do you respond to the young turk? jim: i think you finally figured it out. this is a natural disaster. this is not a business cycle. we got a lot of help coming through the pipeline. consumers are sitting on a boat load of cash that built up last year. i think it is quite reasonable to be forecasting we will have our economy back to full employment. unemployment down to 3.5% to 4% by the end of this year. once you see all of the support coming from washington you will be a little less skeptical. i think that is the right idea. as chairman powell says we do have unemployment down 10 million below where we were. it doesn't all show up in unemployment because people dropped out, but i think this nightmare is coming to an end then we will see this thing get behind us by the end of this year. lisa: you talk about the savings rate. this is a point of great contention. there's $1.5 trillion in american savings

my dad ended up going to law school at the university of chicago. it turned out the law suited him well. he liked it and it liked him back. he finished first in his class at the university of chicago and clerked at the u.s. supreme court for justice white. shortly after that he joined the phoenix law firm of jennings, strauss and samon and represented clients big and small and corporate, mostly civil but also criminal cases. he loved the law. he loved the opportunity he had to represent clients. he loved the challenge that each case brought him. he loved the opportunity to digest large volumes of information and condense it down into a single legal brief and then into a single oral argument that he could present in court. his enthusiasm was so intense that once in a while a judge would pull him aside afterwards and ask him why he was so intense about the case. he would respond by saying, okay, i'll try to dial down the intensity next time. little by little he became more conversant in court, never to the point of being chatty or inappropriately famil

economist at the university of chicago found that electricity customers and 29 states had paid 125 billion more on electricity then they would have in the absence of renewable energy mandates. one makes b electricity reliabl, resilient and affordable is the generation by a few large efficient plans with a minimal necessary wires and storage. i think this is most important inclusion in the basic picture is that a simpler grid is a more reliable resilient and affordable affordable electricity. industrial solar and wind projects require between three and 400 more time than land than nuclear plants and the best available science calculated that the if thehe u.s. were tryg to generate all its energy with renewables we would need to increase the amount of land required for energy from .5%5% o 25 or even 50% or opposition to expanding transmission comes from conservations across the u.s. and for example, federal judge last year blocked the transmission line at the behest of plaintiff's proposed to be billed straight three whooping crane habitat in nebraska because transmission lines are the numbe

i serve as the chief of trauma at the university of chicago medicine. our dedicated staff care for people traumatically injured in the south side of chicago. horrific mass shootings like the chicago park manor shooting that killed 15 and killed 2 people or in metro atlanta that killed eight people last week or the tragic shootings last -- yesterday that killed 10 people in boulder, colorado, dominate the national news cycle for a few days but no substantial actions follow. every day in this country, there are over 100 gun related homicides or suicides that are no less devastating. at my hospital we work to save people every day. far too often the bullets lead to death. we have a moment of silence of knowing too well we will soon hear screams of anguish. their son, their daughter, their loved one, their parent is not dead. they ask, how could this have happened? we do not have all the answers. public health is a science of protecting the safety and improving the health of communities through education, policymaking and research for disease and injury prev

there were just a few of the very selective network of university of chicago is most selective but most were in new england and then a bunch less selective schools and vendor independent 600 plus more selective colleges with test optional. i think a lot of parents were suspicious last year. here's what i will say now that we're almost to the entire admissions process for this first pandemic class, and that's this. when i talked to admission deans as most of the selective colleges they will tell me that their applications without test scores are running anywhere between 25-50% of applications. 50% that's a lot, even 25% is 5% is a decent amount. they are not through acceptances yet but they are mostly running around the same. 25% of class apply with applicant test optional and maybe 25% of acceptances are test optional. what i think this is saying to me is yes, and when they sit test optional. test optional here's the problem because i'm working on a paperback edition of my book and of trying to figure out how come people when decisions are done are colleges going to tell us, other getti

economist at the university of chicago found that electricity customers in 29 states have paid 125 billion more on electricity than they would have in the absence of renewable energy mandates. what makes electricity reliable, resilient and affordable is the generation by a huge large, efficient plants with the minimal necessary wires and storage. this is the most important conclusion, the basic picture is a simpler grid a more reliable and affordable, creates more reliable, resilient, affordable electricity. mesindustrial solar and wind projects require three to four times more land than nuclear plants or natural gas plants and the best available science calculates that if the u.s. were to try to generate all of its energy with renewables, we would need to increase the amount of land required for energy from 0.5% to 25 or even 50%. opposition to significantly expand transmission comes from communities and conservation's across the u.s.. for example, a federal judge last year blocked a transmission line at the behest of plaintiffs supposed to be built straight through a whooping crane habit

the fox news site a piece i had in the "wall street journal" with austan's colleague at the university of chicagolook at the welfare benefits, unemployment insurance, obamacare subsidies and increase in food stamps people will make a lot of money and it is true, austan. the congressional budget says half of people unemployed today will make more money staying unemployed than going back on the job. that's bad economics. >> you said $100,000. >> bill: is the issue the devil in the details once more people discover what's in it austan? >> maybe. but i think primarily you've got checks going to the unemployed, checks to parents of kids, money that is going to vaccine distribution, improving childcare, making healthcare more affordable. that stuff will get more popular over time. >> bill: austan and steve, thank you. it was short. come back next friday. >> martha: back to breaking news. pressure building today on governor cuomo. more members of new york's delegation calling for him to resign over sexual harassment allegations, jerry nadler, alexandria ocasio-cortez, both joining the resignation choir

she became a lawyer at the university of chicago. that's my hometown. not frequent for women to do that and set up her own practice and got interested in politics. and she served in the territorial house and senate. and guess what? the first woman ever to be in that body. she was a ground breaker. in 1964, now this is five years after hawaii became a state, patsy ran for the united states congress. the first woman of color. and the first asian-american. and the first woman to represent hawaii. so she championed early childhood education, introduced the first child care bill in congress. and she was a ground breaker by introducing title 7. this was legislation that itself was groundbreaking, an amendment to the higher education act, title 9 ensured that women could be -- could not be excluded from participating in school activities, participating in collegiate athletics. and believe me, this was not an easy bill to pass. that same year, she actually did run for president. two years before shirley chisholm did, a very short race. she was an anti-vietnam w

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on the house by the latest tomorrow with randall krazner, former federal reserve governor, university of chicago, a real smarty pants. thanks for being here. >> good to be with you. neil: i will call you dr. smarty pants. what do you say people saying about the stimulus, excessive as it might be, covid related areas, delayed in some cases for future years, it will be big and have a stimulative effect. the oecd saying it will have global impact as well. do you buy that? >> it is certainly big, no doubt about that and janet yellen said we want to go big. i think this is consistent with that and it is not just this by itself, remember there was just almost a trillion dollars that was passed in december and roughly a year ago almost $3 trillion spent in, and so, when you put all of that together, that is a very significant fraction of gdp and, i think it will have, it will certainly boost, boost gdp but i'm not sure it is the wisest way to spend our money. eventually this has to be repaid and i think focusing on the health situation, focusing on vaccines, focusing on making sure our educational inst

>> so this is an article that casey mulligan university of chicago wrote in the "wall street journal." we predict we'll have real problems getting people back on the job. austan and i agree. the biggest problem right now with the economy is we have to get americans back in the workforce. that means we have to create the jobs but also when the jobs are created we've got to make sure people go back on those jobs. we'll have a lot of people getting as much as $100,000 in an annual basis in unemployment and other welfare benefits. i think that will be a real problem in terms of getting those people back in the factories, back on the construction jobs and back in the stores and delivery jobs. within about three months we will see help wanted signs all over the country but not enough workers to fill them. >> dana: austan, how would you respond to that? >> steve is a friend of mine but he is at best confused on this point. nobody is getting paid $100,000 of unemployment. this is the same prediction that he made if you remember when the first cares act was passed and he said having unemployme

in 2019, kaitlyn participated in the emerging rural leaders program at the university of chicago, whichrovides opportunities for rural high school students to enroll in college courses over the summer months. that program has helped put her on the path to becoming a physician. the success for rural students and communities act would support dynamic programs such as the ee ternlging rural leaders program and the arooistook aspirations initiative. it would encourage other communities to innovate in similar ways. madam president, both bills i'm introducing today would provide critical support to students across the country who are seeking to achieve their college and career dreams. i urge my colleagues to support both of these bills. thank you, madam president. i yield the floor and i suggest the absence of a quorum -- i would withdraw the quorum request. mr. grassley: madam president. the presiding officer: the senator from iowa. mr. grassley: before i speak, i have a unanimous consent request that my judiciary committee detailee joseph ruth be given floor privileges for the remainder of

you mean the university of chicago study that found that renewables cost 125 billion across 29 states? >> yes. >> senator, i would be delighted to do that and send it to you. >> thank you. and one other -- well, i think i'm out of time. i would like mr. gabriel, for the record, if you could give me an answer to whether you consider the grid instability problems a wires problem or a technology software problem. in other words, do we have to rebuild all the wires and towers, or do we have to modify the way the grid is managed? and i'm out of time. so if you could supply that for the record to the committee, i'd appreciate it. >> i'd be happy to do so. >> senator cortes. >> thank you for this conversation today. i so appreciate the chair and ranking member holding this hearing. let me just say from the outside, i also agree with my good colleague senator king on electric vehicles. there is potential there, we saw the benefits particularly in what happened in this winter storm, presidents' day in texas. i have a lot of legislation around this space. it is the future and we should not igno