to go, then a special military operation and to bakhmut, well, it's the only road after the university of geneva of the copper mine trumpets, all the work is on bakhmut and what to do, what to do, the steel is hardened, so to speak , the real outcasts of medvedchuk and the russian world, he is not the russian world, but they are ukrainians by origin. do you understand all this, this is even worse, this is a very philosophical question who are they are ukrainians by origin, well, because ethnically , for sure, but are they ukrainians in spirit or are they ukrainians, god, now there are some henchmen and friends of putin in all his economic affairs and in affairs, too, and the war with ukraine, for such brothers kovalchuks kovalchuks these are some of his neighbors, some oligarchs who are there with him, he goes to them there, they go to his place for coffee, so on and so forth. medvedchuk is also like a ukrainian, is he from volyn or where are his ancestors from? well , i have a big question, and this is a big question for all ukrainians, what does it mean to be ukrainian, not in the ethnic sense

humanitarian law, but also as a cynical violation of the universally recognized special status of the international committee of the red cross, recognized by the genevaonventions, as an authoritative neutral organization with an exclusively humanitarian mandate. and of course we we believe that the international humanitarian community should not abandon such barbaric actions. without attention. the russian side expresses its solidarity with the committee and calls on it to insistently demand that kiev comply with international humanitarian law. well, the main thing is in another dishonest conversation on these topics without a cessation of repetition. these are the wildest false theses that are developed in the depths of nato structures and put into the mouths of zelensky and companies, and nothing will happen if they are not stopped, if this terrible infodemic. any attempts to improve the humanitarian situation on earth will be futile, because it is impossible to supply weapons to the kiev regime from western capitals with one hand, and pretend that they are trying to help civilians through humanitarian organizations with the other hand. some of thi

joining us from geneva, dr. margaret harris is a spokesman for the world health organization in bristol, the u. k. doctor gabriel scally. a visiting professor of public health at the university of bristol. and in new delhi, we have with us dr. rob malik, who's the chairman and founder of the radix hospital in new delhi. thanks for your time with us on inside story, dr. margaret harrison geneva. so let's look at what the w h o was saying. the chief has said that we are much closer to being able to say that the emergency phase of the pandemic is over. but we're not there yet. i just wonder if you can elaborate a little bit on that statement and tell us what this practically means. i'm very glad you had that. they were not there yet, because people really sort of focus on it's nearly over. and it's not sadly as we are now going into the 4th year of this pandemic at and, but we're in a much, much better shape. we've got good vaccines, we've got, we understand how to treat the illness. we understand how to increasingly live with the virus. but the biggest mistake we could make is to just dismantle what we've achieved and pretended toll over. we've got to keep doing the work doing