discuss that i'm now joined by mohammed moran day, a political analyst, and a professor at the university of katherine. but 1st of miranda is 3 to talk to your again, thank you very much for being available. thank you very much for having me. now i know that you have worked with present traces family as an advisor, perhaps also as a friend. and i want to begin by expressing my condolences because i suppose it's not just the, not only a national laws, but also something that touches you personally. yes, i was it, it's very close. i met them. i met the president and a number of occasions he and his wife on the few occasions as well. uh, the president was a very, very humble person, very polite, very friendly. and also when he would constantly be removed from one province to another. he would travel to each province at least once a year and in the province, he would travel from one town to another. and usually he would focus on the more deprives areas and on people who been left behind. so he is particularly popular among the disenfranchised. the working class and we saw that in the funeral was the weste

. >> katherine forster there olivia utley dougie beattie and tony mcgrath, great to talk to you all. joining us now is doctor david jeffrey, a lecturer in british politics at the university ofdavid, thank you very much for coming on the show this afternoon. i want to ask you about this latest news of nigel farage deciding that he will not stand as a reform uk candidate , but as a reform uk candidate, but instead his interest is in the us election at this time, what do you make of that? what do you think the implications for the election are , well, first of election are, well, first of all, it's a it's a rare rishi sunak win here, right? it's the one silver lining in an otherwise storm ridden, skyscape. and i think what we see here is that actually, what this will probably do is mean that reforms polling won't have the 4 or 5 point boost. it would have if farage came back, but that still leaves reform polling between 10 and 14, which is devastating for the conservatives. and it's coupled with this idea that for every voter the conservatives have lost to reform, they've lost a voter to, labour, the lib dems and the greens and also a voter to apathy. so the conservatives are