positive news indeed our 1st guest tonight is jason kindreds with a professor in biology at the university of manitoba he joins us now from canada jason it's good to have you on the show so i want to be clear this steroids it helps people who have severe cases of good night seen what about patients whose cases are not so it's of the that's such a great question right so we're trying to learn about this and in real time do we know that some of the initial data that come out at the very start of this pandemic it suggested that steroids actually made for bait disease in in those that are in the early stages so i think one of the concerns right now with with dex about the zone is that there are you know would there be the potential that if you treated patients too early they might actually end up increasing the potential severity of disease because it actually acts as an anti inflammatory so i think that we have to look at this as a potential game changer for those patients that are actually in severe disease distress but we are still lacking for some sort of a therapeutic that will ultimately help reduce in

he's a professor inverell a-g. it kind of does university of manitoba so one of the things that we tend to look at with these different types of emerging viruses is the fact that they tend to basically increase the immune response so he's actually get an over stimulation of the immune response which in most cases actually is protective for us but in many cases can actually increase disease to berti so the hope with something like dexter methods own is that rather than acting directly on the virus and trying to reduce the ability of the virus to create more copies of itself what the drugs are trying to do is essentially reduce all that damage that is part and parcel of a note or active immune system we're trying to learn about this in real time and we know that some the initial data that had come out at the very start of this pandemic it suggested that steroids actually made exacerbate disease in in those that are in the early stages so i think one of the concerns right now with with dex about the zone is that there are you know would there be the potential that if you treated patients too early they might actually end