i'm now joined by iraq of radical emeritus professor of history at the university of monk. charles, professor duncan is great to talk to thank you very much for being available. my pleasure. now you've read the several books on the interplay of religious and political narrative and the history of modern israel. and one of the most interesting discoveries for me personally, was how crucial the jews from the russian empire and later on from the soviet union, were to the rise of the zionist ideology. especially because they burned particularly religious. and he had, they happened to be one of the staunchest supporters of the idea of the holy or promised land. how do you explain this unusual synergy? well, you have to realize that low boost founders of the state of israel. and before that design is project in palestine came from the say, fail of settlement and the russian empire, which is today is your grand model of the bill of russia and both a group of books. they came to the window post on because of violence in the russian and by a violent directed ad choose the 1st wave. s

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