well, carlos hill is the department chair of african and african american studies at the university of oklahoma and a member of the steering committee for the tulsa race. right massacre, centennial commission, he joins us on skype from norman oklahoma. sir, thank you so much for joining us. here on al jazeera to talk about this issue. first of all, if you could explain, especially to our international audience, the significance of the tulsa race massacre in american history. and also the circumstances that led to it. i was trying to do that briefly. barbara, thank you for having me. i would say the reason why this is so significant is 921, tulsa res massacre is the deadly attack on not just a black community, but an american civilian community in american history. and a 100 years later, the victims, the survivors of the descendants of this horrific are ripping tragedy have received no justice. and so 100 years later, you know myself, individuals on the center commission as well as community groups, are re to make sure that 100 years later becomes of ours and descending did justice. because one

apparently, he's using university of oklahoma. graduate goes back for football games and he drives an rv or at that time. he was driving an rvs. and he said every once while stop at a gas station and get out. pump gas and go get something from the gas station and someone will say to him. you know, you look just like clarence thomas. he said, you know, i get that all the time. because no one expects clarence thomas to be driving an rv to university of oklahoma football game, but apparently it's a big fan. but yeah, they both have been here. excellent, and then i'm surprised we didn't get this question. so i'm going to put you on the spot the end here about biographies. i know one of my favorite books is all the best which has a lot of his his personal notes and diary entries do you have a favorite biography recommend for folks? well, i think i love nature's and like you the man was a letter writer he could maybe couldn't express himself as well as he would have wanted to to an audience of 30 or you know a couple thousand people but

while some ester hartley is an associate professor of middle east studies at the university of oklahoma, he explained how egypt and cattle succeeded in sci fi talks with us did not. rejections deserve credit, of course for their efforts as do the cut to reason the united nations of the secretary general said. and i think particularly with regard to this cease fire. and it's because the by the administration has not been interested in addressing the palestinian israeli conflict. and in fact, as the world watched the bind administration vetoed security council resolutions and refused. in the 1st days when the death toll was mounting to put pressure on israel. so the egyptians and others deserve significant credit. and of course, the biden administration, as all american administrations did not engage with high mass because they considered a terrorist group. so it's only countries like egypt and cut her and so on. that can address the israelis how math other groups in gaza and so on, and the americans that really can have the leverage required to bring the hostilities to an end time for a

native currently serving as chair of the oklahoma legislative black caucus and assistant minority floor leader representative goodwin patch their fine arts degree from university of kansas minimizes coursework coursework in chicago illinois. i understand the oklahoma house is in session today and she may have to briefly step out to cast votes on the house floor. thank you for being her ms. gooe to be able to be here and hear from ms. randle, mr. hughes van ellis, 100 years old. the pleasure of knowing these folks. i will say before i start my statement, i think for right hearted folks, we have heard enough. it is beyond question that a massacre occurred in 1921, it is beyond question that that happened, murder happened, and bombs from airplanes fell on tulsa. what holds us up for a century, are folks that just want us to say god bless america. those that want us to say that america is the greatest country we can ever think of. but what we fail to understand is that as we are all americans, we are not all treated as americans should be. we have had a marvelous example of those who have given their lives, who have served this country, and even today they say per

he is also an adjunct professor at the university of oklahoma. he received his -- from the colorado law and hold a ba from the university of oklahoma, and we welcome you, and you will recognize for five minutes. >> thank you, chairman. in tulsa the racial and economic disparities we see today is a direct result of the 1921 race massacre. those are not my words. those are the words of the current mayor of tulsa, and these disparities we all know exist, some of these disparities you already heard is that we live 11 to 14 years less in tulsa because we have no health care, no hospitals. north tulsa where i grew up, i am a son of greenwood, i am a proud product of north tulsa. we have no hospital. we are shot and beaten by the police three to four times more than a white counterparts. we have 35% of the black people in tulsa living in poverty. we own our homes 2.5 times less than white tellson's -- tulsans. we have evidence, statistic after statistic, yet they oppose justice, they oppose reparations , they oppose mother randall, misses fletcher. i am

will call us hell as a department, have african and african american studies at the university of oklahoma. he says the victims and their descendants are still now fighting for justice. the reason why this is so significant is the 1921 tulsa raise. massacre is the deadly attack on not just a black community, but an american civilian community in american history and a 100 years later, the victims, the survivors and descendants of this horrific arthritic tragedy have received no justice. and so a 100 years later, you know, myself, individuals on the center commission as well as community groups, are re to make sure that 100 years later becomes a virus in descending, did justice, the tulsa police department several years ago. i would say about 5 to 7 years ago. apologize for their involvement in the res massacre. we didn't see a lot of change in police policies, police tactics, community engagement, but the police chief at the time did apologize. we haven't seen that level of contrition from the city or from the state of oklahoma, apologizing for what occurred and committing themselves to a

he's an associate professor of middle east studies at the university of oklahoma. he joined us via skype from norman in oklahoma. somebody great to be back with us again. so let's be cautious here, a sci fi and place, but surely returned to the status quo. once satisfy the palestinian community, what happens now? well, that's completely correct. and of course what that implies is that the underlying conditions that lead to this latest configuration are still there. whether it is the, the, the possible evictions of palestinians from their homes in east jerusalem or increased settlement or increased israeli action and the dispossession of palestinians and the occupation and the blockade of garza. so you are correct that all of the underlying conditions of the immediate situation, the 11 day war and the larger palestinian israeli conflict, or have not been addressed have not been saw. so it is likely that in the future we don't know when a year or 2 or 3 or 4 when mister netanyahu or another israeli government seeks to do something egregious. that something like this

tulsa native, demario simmons first heard about the massacre when he was in college at the university of oklahomaalf of the victims of 1921. >> what do you say to those folks who say it's 100 years later, i didn't commit the atrocities. >> meant you wasn't there, but the city was the entity, it's the same city it was in 1921 as it is in 2021. it's more than a massacre. it's the massacre and 100 years of continuing harm. when you think about right after the massacre, the first thing the city of tulsa did was create a new law that we couldn't properly rebuild, because they wanted to take our land. you think about them building the largest kkk meeting hall in tulsa, right next to greenwood, 1923. you think about them intentionally, purposely bringing this highway right through the community. to push us further north. and when they pushed us further north they pushed us into ghetto-like situations. they intentionally never wanted to allow greenwood to build up and have the power that it had pre-1921. so yes, this is more than just a massacre. we're talking about the harm right to this day. >> in 1921

cultures and other issues and received his jd from the university college of law and holds a master of education degree and ba from the university of oklahoma and we welcome you and you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, chairman. the economic disparity that we see today is a direct result of the 1921 tulsa race massacre. those are not my words. those are the words of the current mayor and these disparities that we all know exist some of these as you've already heard is that we live 11 or 14 years less than our white counterparts because we have no healthcare. we have no hospital. north tulsa, black tulsa. i'm the son of greenwood, a proud product of north. we are shot and beaten by the police four times more than our white counterparts. we have 35% of people living in poverty. we have two and a half times less than white. we have evidence and statistic after statistic yet our mayor and our city and county and chambers have opposed justice and mr. ellis who you heard from today. i am here today because the city of tulsa has failed us and bombed us and killed us and destroyed not just our property or our livelihood and our lives,

when it applies to the university of oklahoma law school, of the law school says, you would make a fine candidate but for the fact that you are the wrong color. so when you go into court and you make the argument that she should be light in, or he should be let in, you have a centrally that dean saying yes, there are also remarkable examples of students in both oklahoma and texas who protest desegregation so that in one case, a man named mclaren who weighs in his sixties and getting doctrine in education, he's told he has to sit at a separate table at the cafeteria. and at the library. and why students simply kind of join him. during the administration to arrest them. that is also part of the story. but what's spencer is not talked about is the way marshal also goes into the south and defense people charged with crimes and he's putting his life at risk every time he does it. the fact that marshall is never lynched ice in some ways remarkable. because he could have faced that many times. . >> my father was a great admirer of a thurgood marshall, i still remember the conversation at dinne

he's the chair at history of liberty at the university of oklahoma. although, i have inside information that he's soon to go to my place. all signed up. he was appointed in -- that was pretty good? >> yeah. >> it was all right. >> a little -- [ laughter ] . >> he's not going to that finest place yet. >> not yet. >> he's appointed in 2002 soft national council of humanities advisory board for the national endowment for the humanities. he's served as a senior scholar, and then the big thing. i have no friend who hasn't been intending to write a textbook of worth about the history of america. but i only have one who has done it. and it's recent and it's great. and it's called "land of hope" an invitation to the great american story, bill mclay. >> thank you. good afternoon, everybody. it's wonderful to be here. i'm going to talk about abraham lincoln, amazingly. what i want to do is tell a story about him that i think illustrates a point that we can expashuate on. we know lincoln was a voracious reader and had little form of education, but most of his se

he's the chair of history at the university of oklahoma.ave inside information that he's soon to go to a fine place. all signed up. he was appointed in 2000 -- that was pretty good, wasn't it? >> it sounded a little like jesus. >> he's not going to that finest place yet. >> not yet. >> he was appointed in 2002 to the national council of the humanities, he's served as a senior scholar at the woodrow wilson international center for scholars and the big thing, i have no friend who hasn't been intending to write a textbook of worth about the history of america, but i only have one who has done it, and it's recent and it's great and it's called land of hope, an invitation to the great american story. bill mcclay. >> thank you. good afternoon, everybody. it's wonderful to be here. i'm going to talk about abraham lincoln, amazingly. but i want to tell a story about him that i think illustrates a point that we can then expand on a little bit. we all know that lincoln was a reader. he had very little formal education. he got most of his sense of the

he is -- university of oklahoma. although, i have inside information that he is set to go. >> all signed up. he was appointed in 2000 -- that was good, wasn't it? [laughs] he is not going to the finest place, yet. he was appointed in 2002 to the national council of humanities. the advisory board of the national involvement of endowment of the humanities. he is a senior scholar at the woodrow wilson international center for scholars. and then the big thing, i have no friend who has not been intending to write a textbook of worth about the history of america. but i only have one who has done it. it is recent, and it is great, and it is called land of hope. an invitation to the great american story, bill mcclain. >> thank you, doctor. good afternoon everybody it is wonderful to be here. i will talk about abraham lincoln, amazingly. would i want to do is tell a story about him that i think illustrates a point that we can then expatiate on that a little bit. we all know that lincoln was a great reader, he had very formal

cultures and other issues and received his jd from the university college of law and holds a master of education degree and ba from the university of oklahoma and we welcome you and you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, chairman. the economic disparity that we see today is a direct result of the 1921 tulsa race massacre. those are not my words. those are the words of the current mayor and these disparities that we all know exist some of these as you've already heard is that we live 11 or 14 years less than our white counterparts because we have no healthcare. we have no hospital. north tulsa, black tulsa. i'm the son of greenwood, a proud product of north. we are shot and beaten by the police four times more than our white counterparts. we have 35% of people living in poverty. we have two and a half times less than white. we have evidence and statistic after statistic yet our mayor and our city and county and chambers have opposed justice and mr. ellis who you heard from today. i am here today because the city of tulsa has failed us and bombed us and killed us and destroyed not just our property or our livelihood and our lives,

welcome to the university of central oklahoma and professor alan arnold. the oakes are in the house. so thank you for coming please join us again. everyone next week on the 26. we're going to continue the lunch and learn series the director of the rothschild archival will be here melanie aspy. they should be really fascinating. this is an historic banking house again a week from this thursday and then on the 24th, this is tuesday upcoming. we'll be screening the rediscovering alexander hamilton. this is the pbs documentary. there's recently released and all your questions about the movie can be answered because the producer director michael pack will be in the house. now turning our attention to today and matthew algeo, and the president is a sick man. this is matthew's third book his second. truman's excellent adventure, which traced harry and best truman's cross-country trip in 1953. got a lot of great, press and in 2009 the washington post called it one of the best books of the year and additionally before that. he wrote a book about the war years and f

welcome to the university of central oklahoma and professor alan arnold. the oakes are in the house. so thank you for coming please join us again. everyone

of american citizenship. host: our guest is joining us from inside the tulsa oklahoma historical society. he studied at the university of arkansas. teresa is joining us from tulsa, oklahoma. good morning. caller: my name is teresa. in 1989 or 1990, senator maxine horner assigned me because of me and my husband's expertise to the greenwood task force. during that period of time, we heard hunting stories because people were interviewed -- we heard hunting stories because people were interviewed and there were more people alive during that time. one of the stories that haunts me is the story of a woman giving birth and in the exodus where people were having to leave, they put the baby in a man's shoebox. somehow in the craziness and fear, that shoebox got lost. we have moved to california and now we are back and we have been here a year -- we had moved to california and now we are back and we have been here a year. i want to get involved with greenwood again. host: thank you for sharing your story with us. we will get a response. hannibal johnson? guest: what a moving story. i remember the story of the woman who gave bi

of american citizenship. host: our guest is joining us from inside the tulsa oklahoma historical society. he studied at the universityarkansas. teresa is joining us from tulsa, oklahoma. good morning. caller: my name is teresa. in 1989 or 1990, senator maxine horner assigned me because of me and my husband's expertise to the greenwood task force. during that period of time, we heard hunting stories because people were interviewed -- we heard hunting stories because people were interviewed and there were more people alive during that time. one of the stories that haunts me is the story of a woman giving birth and in the exodus where people were having to leave, they put the baby in a man's shoebox. somehow in the craziness and fear, that shoebox got lost. we have moved to california and now we are back and we have been here a year -- we had moved to california and now we are back and we have been here a year. i want to get involved with greenwood again. host: thank you for sharing your story with us. we will get a response. hannibal johnson? guest: what a moving story. i remember the story of the woman who gave birth

of its leaders. we can speak to dr samer shehata, from oklahoma university who's carried out extensive research into olicy towards the middle east. thank you so much forjoining us. let me ask you first of all, obviously the violence and the crisis we are seeing this time is so similar in many ways to what we have seen in the past but there are also key different, aren't there? in particular looking atjeremy bowen's piece there, the sectarian violence against israeli arabs and dues sets us apart from what we have seen before. . , _, , , before. that is completely correct — before. that is completely correct. we _ before. that is completely correct. we have - before. that is completely correct. we have seen - before. that is completely correct. we have seen in l before. that is completely i correct. we have seen in the last ten years or so, or even longer, a number of episodes of violence of attacks by the israeli military on gaza, 2014, we also saw the 2006 israel hezbollah war, a little bit different but also similar and as the piece mentioned, we did not see a conflict inside israel among israeli ar

there's a giant branch campus of oklahoma state university there, right? s as bad as it gets >> and it's multigenerational impact. >> right. >> it just goes on and on, when you talk about a neighborhood that had so much just promise, for her to say that was the shining city on the hill, and to have it be destroyed, and what that has wrought over the generations. >> i know so many white o oklahomans, my age and even a couple of decades younger said we never heard about this. never knew about it. >> and the reparations question is so disheartening. i mean, there was a chance to try to make things a little bit right and you get a medal. >> a tiny handful of survivors, right? here's your medal. >> harry, thank you. >> nbc news now has a documentary, and there's a lot of documentaries that are out now. we invite you to go out there, take a look, learn what you need to learn. >> and the documentary that harry just mentioned on the tulsa massacre it's called "blood on the black wall street." it's tomorrow on nbcnews.com, and nbc news now it's available on demand s

of american citizenship. host: our guest is joining us from inside the tulsa oklahoma historical society. he studied at the universityarkansas. teresa is joining us from tulsa, oklahoma. good morning. caller: my name is teresa. in 1989 or 1990, senator maxine horner assigned me because of me and my husband's expertise to the greenwood task force. during that period of time, we heard hunting stories because people were interviewed -- we heard hunting stories because people were interviewed and there were more people alive during that time. one of the stories that haunts me is the story of a woman giving birth and in the exodus where people were having to leave, they put the baby in a man's shoebox. somehow in the craziness and fear, that shoebox got lost. we have moved to california and now we are back and we have been here a year -- we had moved to california and now we are back and we have been here a year. i want to get involved with greenwood again. host: thank you for sharing your story with us. we will get a response. hannibal johnson? guest: what a moving story. i remember the story of the woman who gave birth

all of this land we see here owned by the city, oklahoma state university, other white entities, thisack-owned land. we want it back or give us as, the professor said, give us damages off the land, the value of it. it's not very difficult. the difficult is, oklahoma and america do not want to give black people the same rights as white folks and what i mean by that is it's simply easy to do the mathematical calculations and use the law to repay what was taken. >> wow. it's fascinating here in tulsa, i have to tell you, because essentially descendents of what happened here 100 years ago today still co-exist. you're living alongside the great grandchildren of people who committed these atrocities. it's interesting how state sponsored violence carries ris through the decades. we'll be talking about those more. i want to thank you both. you'll have to come back. i think your take on financial segregation is quite fascinating. the amazing da mario simmons will be back on another show. we have much more live from tulsa when we come back. think of what peanuts have given humanity! fuel for va

oklahoma city bombing. completely qualified for this job because he holds views that the vast majority of americans hold, like 90% of them support universitycriticized for these views while we have an on going mass shooting where we know there are already eight fatalities. i guess the irony was lost on them but should not be loss on the american people that we need a person. i was able to convince republicans to support him. i'm not sure that is going to happen at this time but the key is we need someone in place running that agency. >> i was struck in your remarks today. i wanted to play that clip of you talking to the nominee because you singled out one of your republican colleagues, pat toomey. you said he worked on the background issue and tried get that done. seems to me you are signally that potentially the background issue might not be over. there might be room to get some reform? >> yes, senator chris murphy and senator blumenthal. i don't rule it out at all despite what happened today. we have been through four years at donald trump. i sat across from him at parkland where nine times he said he wanted to see background checks. nin

you got a total of 15 conservative-led states, oklahoma, nebraska, kansas, mississippi, alabama, they do not have a single universitynounced a vaccine requirement, requiring returning college students to get vaccinated seems like a no-brainer and the way to keep your college campuses safe from outbreaks. >> yeah. you're right. look, i want to be clear, like, i understood a little bit of the hesitation when we were talking about, you know, vaccines that weren't even here before november. now that we have the data and, yasmin, let me stress, we have over a billion people that have been vaccinated on this planet, and so it is highly safe, highly effective, and frankly, as you're seeing from south beach, it's one of the few ways that we can get back to normal. and so, i think we'll always have room for exemptions but those are rare. i would say that if you actually asked the students and the staff on those campuses, they would want to make sure that their college and their campus and their living spaces are as safe as possible, so i hope that those leaders at those universities listen and i hope families express their d

investigated the oklahoma city bombing completely qualified for this job and because he holds views that the vast majority of americans holds, like 90% of them support universal while we both have an ongoing mass shooting where we know there are already eight fatalities. so many, one after another after another and i guess the iron it was lost on them but i don't think it should be lost on the american people that we need competent person. and i've worked on the last confirmation was todd jones he's from minnesota. i remember holding the vote open for hours an hours almost entire day and i was able to convince republicans to support him. i'm not sure that's gonna happen this time but the key is that we need to have someone in place running that agency. >> i was struck in your remarks today. i want to play that clip of you talking to the nominee, that way today. because you singled out one of your republican colleagues senator pat toomey. you said there are republicans that worked on the background check issue and try to get that done. seems to me that you are signaling they are potentially that at least the background checks issue might not be over. that ther

oklahoma city bombing. completely kwaufd for this job. and because he holds views that the vast majority of americans hold, like 90% of them support universalchecks so he gets criticized for these common sense views. while we have an ongoing mass shooting where we know there are already eight deaths. one after the other, one after the other, one after the other. i guess the irony was lost on them, but i don't think it should be lost on the american people that we need a competent person and i worked on the last confirmation from todd jones, he was from minnesota and i held the vote open for hours and i was able to convince republicans on support him. i'm not sure that it will happen this time. we need to have somebody in place running that agency. >> i was struck in your remarks today and i wanted to play the clib of you talking to the nominee, that way today, because you singled out one of your republican colleagues, senator pat thyme, you said there are republicans like senate toomey who worked on the background check issue and tried to get it done. seems to me that you are signaling there, potentially that at least the background checks

of the nation's colleges and universities and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from oregon, ms. bonamici, and the gentleman from oklahoma, mr. lucas, are each recognized for 20 minutes. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from oregon. ms. bonamici: i ask unanimous consent that all members have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on the bill under consideration. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ord. ms. bobe meche: i yield myself such -- ms. bonamici: i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman is recognized. ms. bonamici: i rise in support of h.r. 2027. the covid-19 pandemic has highlighted how important scientist and engineers are to help us respond to crises and move toward a brighter future. whether it's a deadly pandemic or a climate crisis we need all our nation's talent to help us understand the challenges and contribute to solutions. we also need all of our nation's talent to fill the high-skilled jobs of the future. our nation's demographics are changing. we are not keeping up in diversifying our stem work