hospital with jennifer cassidy, a diplomatic scholar and lecture it international politics at the university of ox, which is joining us from dublin. thank you very much for being with us. these rallies and the american se, i'll, she 5 is the command center for, i'm us. there is yet to be tangible. evidence of that. can you tell us 1st, what international law says about targeting medical facilities? so under international humanitarian law, indeed, international as a whole targeting met medical facilities is a war crime, a plain and simple. now the is really and those are korea, the ideas are using what we, what we know and international as the law of ministry necessity. now what that state is best, yes, they will. they are aware that there will be kidding of civilians. the biggest is done in order to achieve their aim of killing a target or killing a and you know an enemy, as they know it. however, we in international all you need to balance out with 2 other pillars which are just as strong and equal in volume. and that is the low a personality. and the little distinction with the law supports not