and joining us from rome, a professor of political economy at the university of pretoria. to you all. in a new delhi, we are coming to you first. explain to our audience why this is happening faster than it should be happening, and still is happening fast despite all our efforts. chandra: i think it is important to understand that there is a fundamental reason, and it is poverty. land is degraded because it is extensively used by poor people for food, father. if you want that land to be restored, you would have to provide alternatives. unfortunately, over the last 30 or 40 years, we have not been able to eradicate poverty, and, therefore, intensive use of land . that is a fundamental reason why degradation continues. why deforestation is still an important issue. we need to put a lot more resources if we want to reverse this. i have a difference of opinion with what the unit is saying. land is not the easiest. we have the historical experience of trying to reverse land degradation and we have not been able to do it because we always think it is the easiest thing to do. unf

we have an economist and energy analyst, and in rome, lorenzo at the university of pretoria and an authore to inside story. i am coming to you first in amsterdam. does this mean big, polluting companies around the world who are taking chunks out of the ozone now in effect have a duty of care to all of us? >> yes, yeah. [laughter] we should with our case against shell can no longer continue causing dangerous climate change and this is a strong signal to other companies also responsible for a lot of co2 emissions. host: national courts legislating internationally because that is in effect what we are talking about the business, is that good or bad? >> it is new, it is something that has happened in the u.s. for some time. it has really not happened that much in europe, but the climate change debate is a global thing, so we should not be surprised that it is happening. it is good for companies to comply, and sometimes it is very much a first row thing. it is easy to see this in the first world. we also need to look very hard at what it means in emerging economies and what it means for energy

energy analyst, and in rome, we have lorenzo, the monte professor political economy of the university of pretoria and author of well being economy success in the world without growth. welcome to inside story, nina and i'm that i'm coming to you 1st. does this mean that the big polluting companies around the world, the companies around the world who are taking chunks out of the ozone? now in effect, have a duty of care to all of us. yes, yeah, i think many we showed with our, with our case against shell, the, the, a big pollute such as shell can no longer continue crossing dangerous climate change. and this is very strong signal also to the other companies that are responsible for a lot of emissions. clearly am i there in the national courts legislative internationally because that's an effect, i guess what we're talking about the business is that good or bad? well, it's new, i mean it's something that has happened in the us for some time. it's really not that much in europe, but the climate flemish change debate is a global thing. so we shouldn't be surprised that it's happening. it's going to be

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