on that state of the economy with michaeljacobs, the professor of political economy at the university of sheffieldthe uk for quite a long time has had the lowest rates of investments of major western countries. particularly public investment has cut over the last 1a years, so getting that rate of investment up is what creates productivity and growth and that above all, is what the country the economy needs. in the country the economy needs. in terms of how it's done, i was listening to someone on the radio this morning saying that crucial to him, was the pace of it. funding and planning for the various projects... the money can be allocated quickly but however long it takes to spend depends. a railway line that has been completely planned butjust as i got the cash, but one that doesn't have planning permission is going to take longer. obviously the government wants a political result in the next five years, it may not get some of that till the next parliament which is why the prime minister talks about a ten year programme for national renewal. some of it, if you can employ more nurses or doctors

centre for carbon dioxide utilization and professor of chemical engineering & chemistry at the university of sheffieldese carbon capture plans are ground—breaking and part of a clean energy revolution. is that how you see it? in some wa s that how you see it? in some ways yes. — that how you see it? in some ways yes. in _ that how you see it? in some ways yes, in some _ that how you see it? in some ways yes, in some ways - that how you see it? in some. ways yes, in some ways know. what you must realise is this is the fourth attempt that recent governments have made to launch these schemes. starting with tony blair and gordon brown and each time it has been cancelled. if we storage has to be done. if we are going to achieve the current aim, net zero for electricity by 2030. we need to get moving now. it is been going on in norway and canada, to say we are leading it needs a step change, we need to up our game and it is not to storage, but utilisations you can capture and land fill it, but what happens to the carbon? if we are not using oil then we are going to use carbon from the petrochemical industry

case goes far back , as in 2015, when i was back, as in 2015, when i was expelled from the university of sheffielda debate where i expressed my christian views. i was eventually expelled from the university of sheffield, went through the court system, court of appeal. i went to the court of appeal. i went to the court of appeal and i won my case. so i went back to the university of sheffield and i completed my social work course. and immediately i completed the course, i found a job, went to the interview and my interview was good and i was offered the job, but a couple of months later, the job offer was, they withdrew the job offer , and i withdrew the job offer, and i found that that is because they came across the debate that i had online and my case with the university of sheffield. so, took them to court , and we had took them to court, and we had a ruling not too long ago, but we've appealed that ruling, and i'll be back to court again at some point. >> do you yourself have also appealed a ruling they ruled against you as well, right. do they give any justification for that? what do they say

first of all, i don't think we should increase it, but i don't think we should cut it either because the evidence is strong that in fact, i've got some figures for you here. sheffield universityo alcohol duty. it led to additional deaths. around 2000 we had 61,386 additional hospitalisations. it cost the nhs £317 million more. but here's the one that really shocked me by cutting duty. they found that there was . 111,062 found that there was. 111,062 additional criminal offences. so i think we've got to be fair but firm. we also need to remember that last year it was reported that last year it was reported that in the uk, well, the women in the uk are the biggest binge drinkers in the world. so i think it's about balance. it's not it's not going overboard. but you know, it is about balance and common sense and making sure we look after the health of people as well. the other thing, however, i would what i would say, would i mind paying what i would say, would i mind paying a bit more if it meant the pensioners get their winter fuel allowance? yeah , i would, fuel allowance? yeah, i would, i'd certainly pay. are you drinker? >> no problem. are you a drinker ? >> no problem. are

joining me now is michaeljacobs, the professor of political economy at the university of sheffield. er to gordon brown when he was prime minister, and also served on tony blair's council of economic advisers. welcome here to the programme, how encouraged are you when you hear rachel reeves say invest, invest, invest? , ., ., , invest? ma is what the economy needs, invest? ma is what the economy needs. the _ invest? ma is what the economy needs. the uk — invest? ma is what the economy needs, the uk for _ invest? ma is what the economy needs, the uk for quite - invest? ma is what the economy needs, the uk for quite a - invest? ma is what the economy needs, the uk for quite a long l invest? ma is what the economy i needs, the uk for quite a long time has had among the lowest rates of investment of all the major industrial country, both business investment and public investment particularly public investment has been cut in the last 1a year, a little rise over the last few, so getting that up is what creatings productivity and what created growth, that above all is what the economy needs