in our guests in pretoria we have so much any honorary visiting professor at the university of south africa agnes gitaus managing partner at advisory firm stay. where she focuses on political and economic risks associated with sub-saharan africa she joins us from london. and also from the u.k. and luton is quesne an ng director of the faculty of academic affairs and research at the coffee and an international peacekeeping training center he specializes in west african states and the sahara region welcome to each of you some i don't let me start with you today from your vantage point what is the state of democracy on the continent on that condon and out simply say you do have a mixed picture some countries are showing stuff village see it regulate elections but some countries are beginning to have even 10 out of the civil stripes and at times the kind of tension that is threatening the very progress that has been made since the early ninety's ninety's if you are seeing violence in our veins then says and what we think is beginning to happen and be exposed is the fed that over concentration on elections