of the institute of national and international security at associate professor at the university of southern denmark . welcome, which thing cautious reactions from france and germany considering the severity of the allegations. what do you bring into that response? well, if germany or the government of gentle imaculi's, usually not the one with, with, with the, with a very strong were with 1st strong words. but i think it's still as well, it's still worth listening to her aunts and furthermore, she opens a gate opener a whole loophole for denmark to get out of this very, very, very precarious situation. that the contract of the bottle into nicholas made a path out as you say, but even that being the case, how serious a breach of trust is this between denmark and then i, germany. well, this is a very serious matter and it's the know the whole scan which, which, which came out yesterday evening shows also i would say some, some pretty fundamental issues within the european community. the me, the question is how and why states use uses. so it's the technical advantages of allying themself without, with