s, fools, unlettered people, self-made frontiersman, davey crockett types. and all the way up until i believe the europeans view of us really hasn't changed in those 200 changes. >> stephen: really, well we kicked their as in concord, did we not. >> we did. but that doesn't stop them from looking down their nose at us. europeans thought it was a fact that american men were smaller, weaker. small never every sense of the word. and all of the our women were were more infertile an and-- our animals were even stupid. they thought the vapors of north america made us stupid, ignorant and mean. >> stephen: i didn't think coy hate europeans more. (laughter) but how did our-- so then did we embrace -- >> so we-- . >> stephen: franklin went over there and played the role of like the bumpkin. >> that's right, he put on the coon skin cap and met the king as this kind of, you know, this american frontiersman, he is probably the only sophisticat we had at the time, right. and yet he shows up there looking like davey crockett. and there is a great moment when john adams co